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What is going on with this child abuse inquiry?

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StealthPolarBear Fri 30-Sep-16 07:17:53

I find it all very worrying

MoreCoffeeNow Fri 30-Sep-16 07:21:40

I think perhaps the brief is so wide that those involved find it an impossible task.

Oblomov16 Fri 30-Sep-16 07:22:54

It surely is a complete mess, that's for sure.

megletthesecond Fri 30-Sep-16 07:26:18

I don't know. My inner tin foil hat is getting rather twitchy though. Its all rather odd.

IrenetheQuaint Fri 30-Sep-16 07:27:19

The remit is too wide and too vague... It's an impossible task.

StealthPolarBear Fri 30-Sep-16 08:02:20

Me too meglet

StealthPolarBear Fri 30-Sep-16 08:35:04

Who has the oversight of an inquiry like this? Who can step in and take control when it's out of control. May commissioned this didn't she, would it still be her or her current replacement?

mathsmum314 Fri 30-Sep-16 09:09:35

Its a catch 22, you reduce the remit to make it manageable and you get accused of a cover up, you keep it as it is and its a massive spaghetti monster. Given the inquiry will take 15-20 years a bit of staff shuffling in the first year to get the right people is ok.

IBelieveTheEarthIsFlat Fri 30-Sep-16 09:17:14

Something badly wrong there. Why did the Human Rights lawyer depart?

Shiningexample Fri 30-Sep-16 09:19:34

People are resigning like they found a horses head in the bed or summat

IminaPickle Fri 30-Sep-16 09:22:13

Clive Stafford Smith would be great. Not in the country when it all happened, human rights lawyer, not establishment but enough gravitas and big enough brain.

IrenetheQuaint Fri 30-Sep-16 09:27:30

I can see the rationale for setting the inquiry up from a political point of view, but in practice trying to get to the bottom of a murky cloud of criminality 30+ years, with many of the perpetrators/alleged perpetrators dead and many of the victims' memories clouded by their youth at the time and the trauma they suffered, is like wrestling an octopus.

Obviously there should be criminal proceedings against past abusers whenever possible, and some form of formal record of victims' testimonies when the perpetrators are dead, or the evidence is not strong enough to go to trial. But otherwise I think the priority should be on ensuring that the structures and culture of institutions in this country are strong enough to ensure that institutional child abuse and decades of cover ups are no longer possible.

quencher Fri 30-Sep-16 09:33:12

This inquiry being to wide. They could divide it up, hire more people and get on with it. It needs to be done but I doubt anything will come out of it. That's end

Pagwatch Fri 30-Sep-16 09:40:17

It's going to fizzle out and also cost a fortune.
I feel sorry for the survivors who assumed they would get some answers.

I always thought it was a political answer and they never work. Too unwieldy, ridiculous lack of focus. It's just never going to work.

I'm not reading anything sinister into that. I just think 'we are announcing an enquiry' was just blurted out to look like someone was doing something. Ridiculous and sad really .

WindPowerRanger Fri 30-Sep-16 09:47:38

The statement saying Ben Emerson Q.C. had been suspended was disgraceful, I thought. It read like a smear, and was already abandoned in the resignation statement.

I did wonder if the statement was put out to get in first with the public before he could issue a resignation statement criticising the inquiry or Prof. Jay. Why on earth could it not have been thrashed out behind closed doors?

The whole thing is a fiasco. I am also not convinced it is workable or even necessary. There have been many many inquiries, leading to both published and unpublished reports, over the years into this very issue with the findings routinely ignored. We would probably get better value for money and more insight paying someone to read them all and extract all their conclusions.

GiddyGiddyGoat Tue 04-Oct-16 12:58:21

Ask yourself whether if you were a highly experienced and successful lawyer you would want to be part of this - tying up your career for years and years to an unspecified timescale, hugely unwieldy, politically sensitive and complicated? It's a poison chalice and most sensible people would run a mile...

feesh Tue 04-Oct-16 13:01:58

My tin foil hat is buzzing too. I used to find the old MN threads on this topic to be very enlightening. It casts a dark shadow over what we think is democracy.

Threebedsemii Tue 04-Oct-16 13:05:45

They're saying the problem with breaking it up is there is such a high risk linked events won't be put together when they start working in SILOs. I wonder if it's time to admit they just can't do it

GiddyGiddyGoat Tue 04-Oct-16 13:19:13

One way of making sure nothing really gets understood is making it an endless impossible task... is there really a wish and a will amongst those in positions of power - politicians, the police, social services to get to the bottom of all this - when they are all potentially implicated? I don't think so. Whether consciously or not the present mess is unsurprising.

CousinCharlotte Tue 04-Oct-16 13:25:10

Agree with feesh

JellyBelli Tue 04-Oct-16 14:48:45

Nothing has been right about this, three chairwomen have resigned. Their web site 'lost' a load of personal info and allegations that had been entered via web forms. Now another slew of resignations.

RosieSW Wed 05-Oct-16 18:08:53

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

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