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Why is everyone in the public crazy about Jesus Corbyn/Corbyn Wan Kenobi?

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BeckerLleytonNever Fri 12-Aug-16 16:24:19

I mean, WTF? He has disciples (as one journalist observed).

Ive totally gone off Alec Guiness now as all JC -(even the initials!!!!) needs is a long brown cloak with a hood like a bloody Jedi master.

And hell be walking on water next!

What is it about him that has thousands signing up for Labour membership?

I WAS a Labour member but because of him Ive left .

genuine question, what influence is he having, to make him followed like a deity?

claig Fri 12-Aug-16 16:56:13

His integrity and decency and courage to stand up for his beliefs and principles. The hope that he will work for the people and not the elites and the bankers and the lobbyists and that no bigwig can tell him what to do, unlike the usual puppets.

What a difference from the shower of politicians the public has become accustomed to!

cdtaylornats Fri 12-Aug-16 21:46:46

He's exactly the same as Ed Milliband - unelectable

neonrainbow Fri 12-Aug-16 21:49:58

He's got scruples. Not like the rest of them.

PleaseNoMoreMinecraft Fri 12-Aug-16 23:33:04

Lifelong (mostly) Labour voter here - I never saw what was special about him either Becker - I voted against him for leadership because I never saw him as a leader. I also think it's a bit dismissive to say that no-one else in the Labour party has any principles!

People seem to want a knight in shining armour with pure motives who will save the country - a lot of people seem to think that's him, but I don't, unfortunately. His principles might be sound, but he's incredibly divisive (and that's not some kind of press bias, that's his direct relationship with his party) and has made the Labour party unelectable at present.

If he's still there for the general election I'll probably be voting Green. I'm sure there are others who will be voting for the Tories. hmm

mathsmum314 Sat 13-Aug-16 00:01:41

He is like Trump and Farage, people are attracted to them because they are rebels offering everything to everybody. The truth is irrelevant, ignorance is an advantage. Anyone who feels hard done by, lives in a fantasy, wants everything free without working for it, wants to blame someone rather than accept any responsibility and wants a freebie paid for by anyone else. Corbyn can pull wine out of water ... until of course he has to, he can't and he melts away like the wicked witch of the west covered in water. History repeats itself, twas always thus.

BakewellSliceAgain Sat 13-Aug-16 00:14:29

I just don't get it. But I've been watching him (intermittently) for years. It was a yawnathon mostly.

JigglypuffsCaptor Sat 13-Aug-16 00:18:04

Jes a gift from God for the Tory party, that's why they love him. It's cool and outlandish to support JC, so the youff follow him, he has integrity and is a breath of fresh air, he has solid principles and is kind, that's why the moral middle aged fawn over him.

But the general electorate think he's a Buffoon on a bike with Jesus sandals and a linen suit. So no need to panic grin

Ninasimoneinthemorning Sat 13-Aug-16 00:21:48

Why do people kept saying he is unelectable? This will be the first time I vote labour because of him.

He seems like the only one not in the boys club.

JigglypuffsCaptor Sat 13-Aug-16 00:47:02

Because his economic policy/plan is well...stupid, as are many of his "bright, New anti- establishment cool" ideas hmm

EnthusiasmDisturbed Sat 13-Aug-16 01:47:15

He has a fantastic pr team behind him it seemed shambolic but now look what they have spun around him he is a man of principle, man of integrity, is taking on the establishment, there is a conspiracy against him

There are similarities to Trump and Farage that he is wanting to be seen as a rebel and this seems to be part of a political movement, not part of the establishment and so on but as much as I dislike them both they have a certain amount of charisma JC has none but that for some works for him as they can pretend it is about him and his beliefs and nothing to do with any spin

The man of principle myth will be totally torn apart coming up to the next general election (sadly I believe he will be labour leader) a man who has shared platforms with terrorists that want Israel destroyed, a man who attended and spoke at events held to commemorate IRA terrorists, he along with his friend Ken invited Gerry Adams weeks after the IRA Brighton Bombing (a bombing was aimed to kill most senior members of our government), a
man that accepts payment from Iranian State television (a government that tortures gay men, journalists and keeps women oppressed) much of this is now being claimed was part of him trying to engage all sides in peace talks yet where are his meetings with those on the other side

The press will inform the public over and over again why Jeremy Corbyn should never ever be PM and he never will be

JustAnotherPoster00 Sat 13-Aug-16 02:44:58

Usual bullshit posted by the usual few makes you despair on MN at times

biscuitkumquat Sat 13-Aug-16 03:16:12

I'm up in sunny Scotland, and we're not friends with the Labour Party at the moment, and I'm staunch SNP anyway.
I think people everywhere are fed up of identikit politicians, and want something different, and hope that if they get a different kind of politician, they'll get a different kind of society.

I think that's the main reason people are voting for Mr Trump.

VashtaNerada Sat 13-Aug-16 03:28:05

I don't know why people are so surprised by Corbyn's popularity. He's to the left of the party, many people have political views to the left of the party. Regardless of whether you agree with him, that's not a strange concept surely?

sportinguista Sat 13-Aug-16 07:32:46

IT is becoming a bit if the cult of personality isn't it? I like some aspects of Jeremy Corbyn, I think he would do a good job in certain ministerial jobs because he has a lot of passion for certain issues, I could see him doing environment very well for example.

But I think for me the Labour Party should be about no one person to the extent it becomes all eclipsing. It became a bit like that with Blair. Yes I think a leader should stand out but not so that he has a cult following. I find some of what us going on odd and off putting.

KathyBeale Sat 13-Aug-16 07:44:08

I find it all a bit odd. I'm very left wing and from a family of lifelong Labour supporters. I was quite pleased when JC was elected leader initially but as it turns out, he's not a leader. He's got lots of lovely ideas and principles but no plans. He hasn't even told us what Labour think of Brexit. He has no plans about anything.

And I'm always suspicious about those old-school Labour men and their views on women, who they seem to ignore most of the time.

My dad, who is a devoted Labour supporter spends most of his time at the moment shouting about Jeremy Corbyn.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g Sat 13-Aug-16 08:20:47

I've never voted Tory in my life but I'm not voting Labour while JC is in charge. He is not competent to run a political party with more than half a dozen members.

Forget government for a moment, and think about how you would like your workplace to be run. Great to have a manager with charisma and lots of fresh ideas, but can she/he follow through? Are they any good at building a team to put those ideas into practice? Are they good at resolving conflicts? Do they have a track record of listening to the team and amending plans to take into account valid concerns from other members of staff? What about the dull but essential hard graft of making detailed plans for how to get things done, allocating work fairly, monitoring progress? Do they have favourites who get promoted because they suck up to the boss, or do they recruit and promote entirely on merit?

Looked at in those terms, JC falls short in every area. His track record in Parliament is that he has been a Labour MP for decades and has spent almost all of that time defying the Party whip over and over again. He votes according to his conscience and not according to Labour Party policy. Even as the Leader of the Opposition, he voted on Trident as he wanted to, not in accordance with Labour Party policy as agreed at the conference. This means that the Labour Party manifesto at the next election will be utterly meaningless because if he doesn't agree with it he won't implement it.

He has proved over and over again in the last year that he doesn't have the leadership ability to keep the parliamentary party together and do what they're there to do, ie provide an effective opposition to the Tories. The disunity is partly because most of the MPs don't agree with his policies but it's also because he has no experience at all of working with a diverse team and pulling them together. He and his inner circle are rubbish at really quite basic stuff like telling people which jobs they are doing and planning when to make major policy announcements so they don't clash with another big news story.

I also find it unforgivable that he was so utterly useless in the referendum campaign. A majority of Labour voters were unaware that the party had a position on Brexit! How shit do you have to be for that to happen?

Destinysdaughter Sat 13-Aug-16 08:25:43

Good grief, can't believe this but I actually do agree with claig on this!

< falls off chair >

Surferjet Sat 13-Aug-16 08:30:54

Women in particular seem to love him.

( me included ❤️ )

HerBigChance Sat 13-Aug-16 08:31:14

I also find it unforgivable that he was so utterly useless in the referendum campaign. A majority of Labour voters were unaware that the party had a position on Brexit! How shit do you have to be for that to happen?

Completely agree. And I'm not convinced about old Labour and views on women, either. Seems like the usual boys' club.

ZenNudist Sat 13-Aug-16 08:38:46

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g I agree totally.

I feel utterly betrayed by the Labour Party I voted for. They had a manifesto for if they got in. I expected in opposition for them to continue to stand for what they said they did back then, not change the playbook entirely.

I like and respect my labour mp but I won't vote for her again under JC. She will probably be deselected anyway for leaving the shadow cabinet. I live in a safe labour area but don't know anyone willing to vote for a party run by JC.

I am actually hoping for labour annihilation at the next election as I think that's the only way the party can get a reality check, stop this path that it's on and rebuild or some other left leaning party take over.

I don't relish the prospect of a huge Tory majority. Just look how much damage they've done without one! But labour are not acting in opposition. I think their actions around the referendum campaign, JC's in particular were a betrayal of what they said they stood for, absolutely disgusting, I don't trust them any more. I feel sad that all the sensible labour politicians are being crowded out by the nut bags.

JC is a petty man, stuck in the 79s and 80s. His priorities are not grounded in the modern world. He is power hungry within his own party but not for the wider country. He doesn't care he is unelectable.

He is quite happy to let the far left take over the party regardless of the consequences for the rest of the country. I think he is a selfish loon.

wibblewobble8 Sat 13-Aug-16 08:42:26

genuine question, what influence is he having, to make him followed like a deity? Please explain where he is followed like a deity? People agree with his politics and will vote for him.

As for saying he is unelectable pahahahahahaha. Ed Fucking Miliband was unelectable. Blairites are tearing Labour apart because the membership have the audacity not to vote how the Blairites want them to vote.

And then wonder why in Scotland at least, they have been all but deserted.

wibblewobble8 Sat 13-Aug-16 08:43:56

Zen, Labour were annihilated at the last election. Was this the fault of JC too grin

DoreenLethal Sat 13-Aug-16 08:49:12

I WAS a Labour member but because of him Ive left

Why did you leave because of him?

JC is a petty man, stuck in the 79s and 80s.

Bit specific innit?

He is quite happy to let the far left take over the party regardless of the consequences for the rest of the country. I think he is a selfish loon.

Really? I think when you look at 'selfish' in the context of UK Politics, JC has got to be at the very bottom of that list. What's wrong with a leftie revolution that is worrying you so much? What would the consequences be exactly?

Surferjet Sat 13-Aug-16 08:54:26

You feel betrayed by the Labour Party because they've got a socialist as their leader?

I've heard it all now.

Corbyn is the Labour Party, or what it should be anyway. You've had watered down Tories running your party for years.

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