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HarHer Tue 28-Jun-16 07:24:07


I know this question must have been asked in a much more erudite form, and probably answered just as well. However, in my opinion (which has changed over the last few days), the whole Brexit thing is a huge mistake. Is there any chance that someone will be able to come forward and admit this to leaders of the EU and humbly accept that we are better off in the EU. Surely, a U-turn by the most Eurosceptic nation in Europe will be a 'deterrent' to EU-Exit parties in other counries!

homebythesea Tue 28-Jun-16 07:25:57

So "admit" on behalf of the majority who voted what exactly? That every single one of us was misguided?

sooperdooper Tue 28-Jun-16 07:26:09

Politically who will put their neck on the line to do that? Boris doesn't want to admit he was wrong, Dave has washed his hands of the whole thing....

Jaimx86 Tue 28-Jun-16 07:29:43

Jeremy Hunt...?

SuburbanRhonda Tue 28-Jun-16 07:31:57

I don't think it'll be possible that anyone will ever admit it's a mistake.

I think we'll just discover gradually, over the years, the difference between "independent" and "isolated".

Chchchchangeabout Tue 28-Jun-16 07:32:01

Most MPs wanted to stay in and the EU knows that. The referendum result is the problem with that, not finding someone willing to say that.

MephistophelesApprentice Tue 28-Jun-16 07:35:52

It's a catch 22 for the politicians at the moment: disregard the desires of 52% of the country, or disregard economic crisis. Both are electoral suicide, and as democratic politicians that's all they care about: winning the game. And look where that has brought us.

Thisismynewname123 Tue 28-Jun-16 10:50:30

The lib dems are staunchly pro European. This could be a turning point for them if they base an upcoming general election mandate on staying in the EU...

RortyCrankle Tue 28-Jun-16 16:45:19

Is this a joke thread?

No - Brexit is not a huge mistake.

No - we will not admit its a mistake to EU leaders, humbly or otherwise.

No - we are not better off in the EU.

Is the above clear enough for you? FFS.

JudyCoolibar Tue 28-Jun-16 19:17:18

So "admit" on behalf of the majority who voted what exactly? That every single one of us was misguided?

Seems fair enough to me. But perhaps what they should admit is that they were lied to.

homebythesea Tue 28-Jun-16 21:58:19

Of course all
Sides were lied to. I knew this. I did my own thinking. I'm quite comfortable with my position thanks.

ExitPursuedByBear Tue 28-Jun-16 22:00:01


0phelia Tue 28-Jun-16 22:02:23

DOOOM we're all going to die !

concertplayer Wed 29-Jun-16 06:28:31

48 to 52 All the ref has done is shown the whole world what a divided nation we are. This is just not the way to be if you want business etc
No one will admit it is a mistake as it was the public who decided in the
ref not the govt

niceguy2 Wed 29-Jun-16 11:18:37

We voted to leave the EU, so we must leave the EU. Actions have consequences.

All we've managed to do is show the world that referendum's can be unpredictable and people will vote on all sorts of reasons even if it's nothing to do with the actual question being asked.

As my teenage daughter so eloquently put last night at dinner. "We've all been screwed by two politician's who want to be PM"

Given most MP's are pro-remain, there's now a choice the MP's have to make and it will come down to this:

Do they govern in the best interests of the country? Or do they govern based on the instruction given to them by the electorate?

Given their own belief's, if it's the first then they need to set aside the referendum. If it's the latter then they need to invoke article 50 and we either sink or swim.

NotCitrus Wed 29-Jun-16 11:44:14

I think the only way to stay in would be for the government to publicly acknowledge that the Brexit vote was a vote of no confidence in the status quo, and come up with some strong messages of support for the regions most affected by industrial decline, spelling out exactly why the EU is better for them. Thing is, that's the opposite of the last 35+ years of Government policy which has been "no idea how to create jobs in ex-manufacturing/mining regions, lets just let the Sun etc tell them Europe is the source of all their problems so they'll still vote for us" , and now Remain had the problem of having to say actually, it's not Europe's fault - austerity is purely down to, er, me who's asking you to now believe my way is better.

So the Conservatives are rather stuffed unless they dissociate themselves from DC, Labour similarly only it's more about if they succeed in dissociating from Blair, will people trust Corbyn on the economy, and how will the LibDems (who are for EU) and UKIP swing things.

niceguy2 Wed 29-Jun-16 11:46:21

Corbyn has always been very anti-EU. Hence why he has only been able to muster lukewarm conditional support during the referendum.

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