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Obesity 'could be a disability' - EU courts rule

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fakenamefornow · 18/12/2014 18:30

What do you think?

I'm not sure this is a helpful development. I think we should be helping people lose weight, this seems to make it easier for them to stay fat.

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fakenamefornow · 18/12/2014 18:31
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FloozeyLoozey · 18/12/2014 18:33

Out of interest is anorexia seen as a disability? It all depends on whether or not you see obesity as something that a person can help, ie did they cause it themselves or is it not their fault?

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Fixerupperz · 18/12/2014 18:34

This is not a good move at all. Ever.

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fakenamefornow · 18/12/2014 18:36

I also wonder how it will affect airlines?

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lljkk · 18/12/2014 18:39

Anorexia is an illness (so is, reasonably thinking, binge-eating disorders). Are chronically ill people protected groups under minority protection legislation? What about diabetics or schizophrenics, why not make them protected groups too? Would they be entitled to DLA? Mind boggles. How about being alive? That's a chronic condition that causes lots of problems until death.

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fakenamefornow · 18/12/2014 18:44

This is interesting (and shocking) to see where you fit.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18770328

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yetanotherchangename · 18/12/2014 18:47

Can we postpone fat bashing until after Christmas please?

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TheGashlycrumbTinies · 18/12/2014 18:51

Great link Fake

I am the most like the average in Vietnam.

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fakenamefornow · 18/12/2014 18:52

So, any mention of obesity is fat bashing?

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thenightsky · 18/12/2014 18:54

I'm most like someone from Afghanistan.

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Fixerupperz · 18/12/2014 18:54

I am just below obese, not because I have a disability but because of my lifestyle choices. I don't see this as fat bashing at all.

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lljkk · 18/12/2014 18:55

on radio 5 now.... "is it an serious impairment likely to last for at least another year?"

Oh well, then, obviously alcoholics & drug addicts belong in the protected group, too.
And EMO people. They suffer lots of prejudice, obviously.
Sex addicts, compulsive gamblers, binge drinkers, political extremists.

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fakenamefornow · 18/12/2014 18:55

I got Vietnam too!

Well, first I got Bhutan then I made myself an inch taller and got Vietnam. I'm on the half inch so wasn't cheating Smile

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Orangeanddemons · 18/12/2014 18:59

Diabetics and schizophrenics are covered under the disability at work act I believe. Any illness which has an effect on performance and is long term is classed as a disabilty

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lljkk · 18/12/2014 19:01

has "an effect" or a severe effect? What's the legal test for significant enough.

I have occasional low days tied to a history of depression. Do I count?

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dinkydonut123 · 18/12/2014 19:06

both anorexia and bulimia are classified as major mental health problems.

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dinkydonut123 · 18/12/2014 19:09

both anorexia and bulimia are classified as major mental health problems, but not necessarily causing a disability...(posted too soon )

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IcicleTree · 18/12/2014 19:22

Obesity and anorexia cannot be compared in the same way in my opinion. If being obese is an illness, then 1 in 4 people in the uk are classed as being ill. I don't agree that this is an illness in all these people, it is a social problem. Those with compulsive eating disorders are rare, the rest really could lose weight if they wanted to. We have to change they way food is viewed in the uk, it needs to remain socially unacceptable, accepting it as the norm to be fat is the danger. Making allowances for obesity in the same way we do for those with unavoidable disabilities isn't the way forward to me!

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whattheseithakasmean · 18/12/2014 19:26

OMG - 91% of women in my age range have a higher BMI - and I'm not skinny.

I don't think tinkering about with classifications of disability really addresses the issue, which is that the developed world seems to be eating itself to death.

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fakenamefornow · 18/12/2014 19:54

Any illness which has an effect on performance and is long term is classed as a disabilty

imo being fat isn't an illness.

the developed world seems to be eating itself to death

Look at the second link I posted, it's not just the developed world.

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YesIDidMeanToBeSoRudeActually · 18/12/2014 20:06

Just a point to make - you can be disabled without being "ill".

As someone who is disabled (and ill) through an unavoidable medical issue, I find this ruling hard to accept. I do know of course that people can become obese for all sorts of reasons, some of which the person has no control over, steroid medication for example. Still, it's hard for me to reconcile affording someone the same rights and legal status over a condition that they have the ability to either control or remove. I don't have that choice and I feel it is unfair. It's hard for me to articulate exactly how I feel so I will watch this thread with interest.

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IcicleTree · 18/12/2014 20:08

Yes, I agree YesI, being disabled doesn't always mean being ill, however I was responding to those that say obesity results from a form of mental illness.

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YesIDidMeanToBeSoRudeActually · 18/12/2014 20:11

I know IcicleTree, there was a few posts along that line though.

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TalkinPeace · 18/12/2014 20:16

Economically this will be really bad for small businesses.
NOT what the EU needs
Or what its ever widening population needs

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dalekanium · 18/12/2014 20:33

Crikey. Rwanda.

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