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Missing Malaysian Airlines MH-370 - Thread 6

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member Thu 27-Mar-14 09:31:02

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DowntonTrout Thu 27-Mar-14 09:37:40

There has been no press conference this morning as there is no news.

Other than a Thai satelite has picked up a debris field of 2-300 objects about 120 miles from the search area.

member Thu 27-Mar-14 09:39:50

Thanks Downton. I have posted on the previous thread that I have asked for threads 1-5 to be moved from _chat to in the news.

Thought Malaysian Airlines would be doing a PC?

PansBigChainring Thu 27-Mar-14 09:45:11

Caught a KL lawyer this morning indicating that the launching of law suits is a 'fishing trip' to reveal otherwise unreleased information. Being less than honest in a press conference doesn't carry the same implication as failing to disclose known information to an officer of a court. Seems to be.

member Thu 27-Mar-14 09:47:01

Thai satellite images tweeted here

I would like to see a graphic that has the Inmersat predicted arc(s) & the position of all the satellite images marked on - anyone found one?

Just marking my place on the new one smile

SantasLittleMonkeyButler Thu 27-Mar-14 09:49:14

So much reported debris! Hopefully toda. will be the day some part of it is recovered and either confirmed as part of the plane or ruled out. I have no conspiracy theory & am working on the assumption that the plane did crash into the Southern Indian Ocean. The poor relatives need some evidence & transparent answers now - my fear is they will never receive either.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Thu 27-Mar-14 09:50:39

There was one on the Malsysian transport ministry FB page linked on the last thread.

Purpleknickers Thu 27-Mar-14 09:56:16

I cannot believe that the Malaysian authorities would be so bold as to say the plane crashed into the Southern Indian ocean if there was any other outcome.
I heard on the radio this morning that the search had been called off again due to bad weather, those poor relatives just waiting sad

Re the search being called off for bad weather, i understand how this affects the planes etc, but what about the boats that are already in the area? Why cant they look? Or do they leave the area if the weather is that bad too? <idiot alert!>

member Thu 27-Mar-14 10:05:46

Doctrine those give me the satellite sighting positions but not in relation to the two predicted flight arcs Inmersat calculated (400 knots & 450 knots)

member Thu 27-Mar-14 10:07:21

When the weather was bad the other day, HMAS Success was reported to have moved back from the search area.

member Thu 27-Mar-14 10:15:48

Statement instead of PC by Ministry of Transport :


THURSDAY, 27 MARCH 2014, 5:50PM

1. Chinese Special Envoy

a. Yesterday, His Excellency Zhang Yesui, the Chinese Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs and Special Envoy of the Government of China, met with the Prime Minister and Dato’ Seri Hishammuddin, the Acting Minister of Transport and the Minister of Defence.

b. Following the meeting with Dato’ Seri Hishammuddin, His Excellency Zhang Yesui also received a comprehensive technical briefing by the international working group, led by the AAIB. Inmarsat’s findings - which led to the conclusion that MH370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean - were explained during the meeting.

c. The Civil Aviation Administration of China (CAAC) and the Aircraft Accident Investigation Department (AAID) of the CAAC were present at yesterday’s technical briefing. The CAAC and AAID have been, and will continue to be, members of the international working group.

d. Today His Excellency Zhang Yesui also met with the Chinese relatives of those on board MH370 who are currently in KL.

e. Malaysia is committed to working closely with the Government of China and to sharing all information related to MH370 in full.

2. Family briefing in Beijing

a. Yesterday, the Malaysian high-level team met with the Chinese relatives of those on board MH370 who are based in Beijing, for the fourth time. Over the duration of the three hour meeting, the relatives received a technical briefing and an update on the search operation. The high-level team also answered questions. Today, the high-level team met relatives again, at 3:25pm Malaysia time. The meeting is still underway.

b. Malaysia is working hard to try and make the briefings to the Chinese relatives in Beijing more productive. Malaysian officials met with His Excellency Huang Huikang, China’s Ambassador to Malaysia, to request the Government of China to engage and clarify the actual situation to the affected families in particular and the Chinese public in general.

3. Operational update

a. The planned area of search today was 16,298 square nautical miles in the West sector, and 6,506 square nautical miles in the East sector.

b. The area identified by the Malaysian Remote Sensing Agency (MRSA) yesterday – where the 122 potential objects were sighted – was also due to be searched today.

c. Today, nine planes travelled to the search area – five in the East sector and four in the West sector.

In the East sector, searches by air were conducted by:
· two Australian civilian aircraft.

· one Chinese Ilyushin IL-76.

· one New Zealand civil aircraft.

· one Japanese Gulfstream.

In the West sector, searches by air were conducted by:
· two Australian P-3 Orions.

· two Australian civil aircraft.

d. Today six ships were deployed in the search area – one in the East sector and five in the West sector.

In the East sector, searches by ship were conducted by:
· one Chinese ship (the Xue Long).

In the West sector, searches by ship were conducted by:
· four Chinese ships (the Kunlunshan, Haikou, Qiandaohui, and Zhonghaishaohua).

· one Australian ship (the HMAS Success).

e. One Chinese ship (the Hai Xun) is expected to arrive in the search area tonight.

f. Today the weather deteriorated in the search area and search operations were suspended at 11:40am.

4. Malaysian team going to Perth

a. Malaysia is in the process of sending a team, comprised of the DCA, MAS, the Royal Malaysian Navy and the Royal Malaysian Air Force, to Perth. This team will work closely with the Australian Rescue Co-ordination Centre to assist with the search operation.


TheDoctrineOfSnatch Thu 27-Mar-14 10:26:00

The BBC has one with the 400 knot and 450 knot routes and all the sightings, it's not a globe projection though.

fflonkl Thu 27-Mar-14 10:34:42

LoopyDoopyDoo I've seen that - more conspiracy theories, Malaysian style, with all the usual baddies (Americans and Israelies!) in there!!

Putting my cynical hat on, I think China is using this as a way to find out as much as they can on other nations' satellite capabilities. I also find it quite ironic that on the one hand the Chinese FM demanded the Malaysian government hand over proof wrt why it thinks the plane is in the south Indian Ocean, but on the other hand sends its ships and planes to the search area. And it wouldn't surprise me (more cynicism here), if, in future, China uses this incident somehow to force concessions from Malaysia over trade/Spratlys etc.

Manchesterhistorygirl Thu 27-Mar-14 10:38:08

Am I being really dense, but I can't understand why it's taking so long for the ships to get to the debris field?

member Thu 27-Mar-14 10:38:40

Thanks Doctrine

I think Friday was due to be a changeover day for the searchers i..e fresh personnel to be updated by current so dubious that there will be a search tomorrow even if weather improves.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Thu 27-Mar-14 10:43:05

Because it's 2500 miles away from Perth - there's no reason for ships to be anywhere near there typically.

The maximum speed of military ships is about 30 knots (28 knots = 52kph) - the plane was probably flying at 400-450 knots.

member Thu 27-Mar-14 10:46:58

MNHQ have confirmed earlier threads been moved from chat to in the news

allisgood1 Thu 27-Mar-14 10:50:24

Place marking. Disappointed we are approaching the end of another week with no proof of debris.

Manchesterhistorygirl Thu 27-Mar-14 11:01:28

The first images were released to us on the 16th, that was ten days ago! If it takes a cruise ship trundling along at 23 knots seven days to cross the Atlantic, which is 3500 miles then why is it taking so long for warships capable of 30 knots so long to cover a shorter distance? We keep hearing the debris site is only "120 miles" or so from where ships are, so my point remains, why is it taking so long for this debris to be analysed from sea level?

Manchesterhistorygirl Thu 27-Mar-14 11:02:03

Even if it is just flotsam and jetsam the families need to know.

DowntonTrout Thu 27-Mar-14 11:07:48

manchestergirl I think the issue is that by the time the satellite images have been scrutinised the debris has drifted/dispersed/sunk. By the time they get there the search area changes and so on. Also things that are seen from the air are less easy to spot from sea level. They are playing catch up.

fflonkl Thu 27-Mar-14 11:08:28

manchesterhistorygirl the weather is super bad there, no land mass to break up storms which can just rage around unabated.

Have you seen the videos taken from ships in the area? I feel almost sea-sick watching them!

traininthedistance Thu 27-Mar-14 11:43:13

Marking place on the new thread....

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