Credit Checks for benefit claiments

[Smilesandpiles]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26573321

Bloody idiots, as if this is actually going to do anything. The idea wouldn't even come in force until the alledged fraud has already been committed for some time - it's not going to save anything, just cost more.

There is not a hope on earth that this will act as any sort of deterrent.

Idiots.

[pointythings]

More pandering to the Daily Mail. Sigh.

[gallicgirl]

It's pointless as the credit check won't show anything concrete.
It might show loans but not what the loan if for. You can hardly sieze a fitted kitchen or double glazing.
It might show insurance quotes but again, you wouldn't know if this is for house, £500 banger or £50000 merc.

[frumpity33higswash]

Mean spirited government headline chasing

[BackOnlyBriefly]

Well it's an informative story in that it tells you all you need to know about David Cameron.

Doesn't like poor people, will do anything for votes and doesn't actually understand how things work.

[expatinscotland]

He's such a stupid fuckwit.

[aufaniae]

"Prime Minister David Cameron believes calling in bailiffs to confiscate and sell expensive items, such as cars and computers, from cheats will be a strong deterrent to fraudsters."

So, they're making their new Universal Credit system online-only, while publicly threatening to take peoples' computers. This makes sense .. how exactly?

[HeeHiles]

If they really wanted to bring the benefits bill down they would stop propping up large corporations paying a pittance to their workers with tax credits and build social housing so we didn't have to claim huge amounts in Housing Benefit. This will achieve nothing!

[JakeBullet]

I hate these bastards so fucking much.

If you get benefits I don't care what you use that money for.

All the stupid fuckers are likely to discover is that poor people have to use catalogues or Brighthouse so they pay twice the amount for items as everyone else...unless they take a risk on second hand...that's if they have the money up front for second hand in the first place.

Hate these pompous arses so much.

[Meglet]

"I hate these bastards so fucking much."

[Smilesandpiles]

Christ knows how I'm not going to physically sick with nerves while they are counting the votes during the next election.

NEVER has the thought of an election scared me so much. Another 4 years of these bastards?

[MrsBartowski]

I honestly cannot understand how we have allowed this guy to stand for so long.

I thought there would be more riots, more anger, more standing against such hatred. I think the apathy is actually scarier then he is

[Smilesandpiles]

To be honest, I've got the feeling that it's more of a case that unless it's happening to them, people in general, don't give a shit. As long as they are alright, nothing and no one else matters.

[PortofinoRevisited]

It's just vague bollocks that means they will confiscate stuff from proven benefits cheats. They probably do this already. Tis a sound bite set out to instill further the idea that the poor are all cheating/scroungers and makes the press sound even worse than the government.

[PortofinoRevisited]

Smiles, remember that New Labour went with the "We are all middle class now" bollocks. Labour are no better than the tories at this stuff.

[NiceTabard]

i don't understand this at all.

Do they mean that people are going to have credit checks carried out as part of means testing or something, and if they have loans for stuff they will be declined? Or that stuff will be seized if you claim benefits and find you have a load for a telly, say, that is fraud and they will come and take your telly on top of no benefits?

I don't really get it at all.

[Pixel]

I didn't think they were allowed to take computers, something to do with data protection? I think the police can only take them if you are suspected of a crime and they have a warrant. Have I got that right?

[NiceTabard]

Also many people on benefits, as well as having to keep their benefits stuff in order with them, are working people who work from home using, guess what, computers.

I don't get it.

Pixel I don't think that's true if you get behind on payments bailiffs come and take stuff. These days anything like TV, games machines, tablets, phones as well as computers might have personal stuff in it.

[longfingernails]

Cameron is quite fond of announcing things which sound obviously sensible, such as this policy, but then not following through.

The few popular things he has done have involved defying the Guardian/BBC cesspit in which most MNers are so happy to wade. But fundamentally, his liberal guilt means he generally won't back up even the weakest conservative stance with action.

I'd have more respect for him if he just did it, without fanfare, and it was presented in Parliament as a fait accompli.

[NiceTabard]

Did what, exactly?

What do you understand he means with this, who is he targeting, how, under what circs.

You support the "obviously sensible" policy so I would be keen to learn what it actually means.

[PatrickStarisabadbellend]

I get tax credits and i have a car worth £11000. Is that allowed?

[PartialFancy]

"Tis a sound bite set out to instill further the idea that the poor are all cheating/scroungers"

This.

The article even admits, "Credit references can already be checked". Nothing new here at all, it's just headline-creation by the DWP.

[JakeBullet]

Patrick No it isn't

Thou shalt only be allowed a car worth less than £500.

[hickorychicken]

The only relavence maybe of a credit check is if a person is claiming as being single and they apply for a joint loan or if thy have a job and apply for credit giving employment details.
It sounds ridiculous.

[Meglet]

The only car worth less than £500 is one of those red + yellow Little Tikes toy cars .

[teaandthorazine]

I thought there would be more riots, more anger, more standing against such hatred. I think the apathy is actually scarier then he is

I agree - how much longer are we going to let this man and his cronies attack the most vulnerable in our society? And as a nation we just roll over and take it.

They are laughing at us.