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Bob Crow has died

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minibmw2010 Tue 11-Mar-14 10:32:41

Wow ... didn't see this one coming.

minibmw2010 Tue 11-Mar-14 10:33:43

Sorry, rubbish link:

Hopefully this works

minibmw2010 Tue 11-Mar-14 10:34:22

Maybe this time

Sparklingbrook Tue 11-Mar-14 10:36:42

He was only 52 as well.

I have seen him interviewed a lot, but I'm not well up on transport union matters. blush

LineRunner Tue 11-Mar-14 10:36:46

There are some unpleasant comments about his death on another thread. I hope this one can discuss his legacy as a union leader. I think he was very combative, which isn't a crime, and often deliberately misunderstood by elements of the media precisely because he was so successful in securing deals for his members.

Sparklingbrook Tue 11-Mar-14 10:37:19

Oh no Line. Really?

LineRunner Tue 11-Mar-14 10:39:52

Yeah, the thread in Chat.

claig Tue 11-Mar-14 10:39:55

Very sad shocking news. RIP.
I really liked him and will miss his role in public life.

Floralnomad Tue 11-Mar-14 10:42:20

Very sad , whether you agreed with him or not he was a man who has stood up for what he believed in .RIP .

funnyossity Tue 11-Mar-14 10:47:01

In his response to the news Ken Livingstone points out RMT members are only working class people left in London with decent pay.

I admired Bob Crowe. RIP.

ballsballsballs Tue 11-Mar-14 10:47:55

sad RIP.

Kewcumber Tue 11-Mar-14 10:50:25

Why do people make unpleasant comments about people who die? confused Even if you knew them personally and thought they were unpleasant, why show yourself up like that even Boris JOhnstone said "Whatever our political differences, and there were many, this is tragic news."

minibmw2010 Tue 11-Mar-14 11:03:21

I have been a passenger commuting into London regularly disrupted by strikes, disputes, etc. BUT I fully respected and understood the why, etc. and if I'd worked for Network Rail I'd have definitely wanted him on my side !!

claig Tue 11-Mar-14 11:13:53

Bob Crow was unique. He said what he thought and felt, was witty and funny, and challenged the cosy political consensus. I loved watching him on TV because you knew you would hear the truth.

Now we have one less voice for the truth, one less voice for the people. It is a terrible shame that he has gone so soon.

When they made Bob, they threw away the mould. We won't see his like again for a long, long time.

Terribly sad.
May he rest in peace.

meditrina Tue 11-Mar-14 11:18:24

I didn't agree with his stance, but I do admire someone who has principles and sticks to them. And it provided a (sorely needed) counterbalance to short term politics of spin and focus group.

ProfondoRosso Tue 11-Mar-14 11:22:16

He had balls. Whatever one feels about unions and union membership (personally, I'm pro), it's important that we understand how lucky we are to actually be allowed to organise ourselves in unions without threat of prosecution or worse. RIP.

Aboyandabunny Tue 11-Mar-14 11:23:33

So sorry to read this. Ken Livingstone makes a very valid point.
RIP Bob Crow.

Kewcumber Tue 11-Mar-14 11:34:00

I admire many people with the strength of their own convictions and who are prepared to stand up and be counted. Even if I vociferously disagree with them even Margaret Thatcher and Arthur Scargill (and I've had a few words to say about both of them in my time)

Wishing people dead/silenced who don't agree with you smacks of immaturity or not having the strength of your own convictions to me. And not something that anyone in a democracy should be encouraging.

claig Tue 11-Mar-14 11:39:01

Exactly, Kewcumber, we need people of conviction who are prepared to challenge the cosy political consensus and the status quo. We need people of passion like Scargill, Thatcher and Crow. The more of those people we have, the more likely things will improve for people.

Crow was a force of nature, a whirlwind, a tornado who ripped through the complacency and challenged it with the truth. They couldn't tie him down.

Who will challenge them now?

comicsansisevil Tue 11-Mar-14 11:40:49

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

telsa Tue 11-Mar-14 13:15:45

This is awful news. he was one of the very few trade union leaders who stood up for his members. He was also one of the very few working class voices you ever hear being taken moderately seriously on the media. It's a massive shame and I hope that the RMT elects another militant as soon as possible, because the workers are suffering such a massive shafting. Feel awful for his children and family, on a personal level.

meditrina Tue 11-Mar-14 13:21:31

I've noticed that the only politicians whose tributes are being quoted in every broadcast are Ken and Boris. Others are sometimes mentioned, but they seem flimsy somehow.

RawCoconutMacaroon Tue 11-Mar-14 13:27:56

A tragic loss. Democracy NEEDS people like Bob Crow. At 52 he should have had many more years of being a thorn in the establishment's side ahead of him.

funnyossity Tue 11-Mar-14 13:28:09

He wasn't a Labour man meditrina.

mercibucket Tue 11-Mar-14 13:34:03

very sad news on a personal level for his family, and a political level.

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