How sick can u get??

[munz]

here

this man want's more than locking up for 5.5 years. even thou he's gopt life he'll be out sooner how on earth can he claim a 6 year old girl 'enjoyed' being raped? it's totally vile.

what can we do about it?? there's been 3 cases I can think of recently with stupidly low/lenient sentances, and this is somehting I feel v strongly against. I am utterly disgusted with the sentances being handed out to these animals, it's almost as if they're getting away with doing this to our children.

I feel so sorry for the little girls and their familys, god only knows the suffering they'll go thru/have been thru

anyhow I read it and was totally appalled, not jsut by the crime but also his comments .

I also understand the man who raped/kidnapped the little 3 year old girl is not having his sentance increased either .

[psychomum5]

sick

vile man


made me feel sick for the parents having to know this man violated their daughters yet the judge clearly thinks nothing of their pain, nor the release board!!!

[ComeOVeneer]

another one here too .

[munz]

I know pyscho, surely there must be something that parents in general can do to ensure tougher sentaces/ parents of victims are heard.

these judges are just as guilty in my mind, tehy may not have committed the crime, but they certianly arn't bothered about the victims with the sentances they hand out

how do they determin they'er readu/fit for parole? can the man/person not put on an act so he gets out early, then commit the same crime again?

I just don't understand how a person can do this to an innocent child on the first count, and on the second how they only get 5/8 years when the poor child and family's of the children have the sentance till the day they die - where's the justice in that?

[7up]

ive just read this is the paper.absolutely outrageous. imagine how you'd feel if it was your daughter/neice, disgusting that their seemingly allowed to get away with it

[psychomum5]

problem is tho....the media already types up how shocked and outraged the public are.....even (as far as I am aware, but feel free to point out if I am wrong), the governmant has stated that sentences should be longer/tougher/served as long as they are given no allowed out on bail early for suppoesed good behaviour - yet still the judges don't listen!!!!

also...of course these evil vile men will behave in prison....their source of pleasure isn't available is it.
doesn't take a brain surgeon surely to see the link.



god....things like this make me furious, and strike a raw nerve too

[munz]

u and me both hon,

these bloody judges. it's just so wrong.

and I realise these ppl won't get an easy time in prison, but I mean come on?? surely you can't reform a peodophile can you?

[psychomum5]

i i don't know....cut off his 'bits' and air drop on an island far far far away....may just have a chance then.


sorry tho for making light of this awful subject

[munz]

lol. it's ok hon, I just get so mad I think tis' about the only topic which really really gets to me, everything else i'm relativly calm about but this is just

[WestCountryLass]

Excuse my french but...dirty bastard, needs his knob cut off

"She was terrified of upsetting him", bollocks, she was just plain terrified, poor thing

[Callisto]

As a matter of fact you need to lobby the govt as it suits them very well to have light sentencing - costs less to get crims out as soon as poss. The judges do the best they can within the sentencing guidelines and the sentencing guidelines are set by the government. It also suits John Reid to blame the judges - in fact it is his office that is directly responsible.

If you feel strongly write to your mp and the Attoney General Lord Goldsmith. If there is enough public pressure the sentence will be reviewed.

[Callisto]

I also read a piece of research which I will try and find when I get a minute which stated that trying to get a paedophile to not be attracted to children is like trying to get a gay man not to like men. Apologies for dreadful grammer - bedtime!!

[bunny3]

callisto, that's a good analogy. I've read it too. That is why chemical castration or locking up for life is the only sensible solution. They will always find children sexually attractive, therapy aint going to change that. I bloody detest these do-gooders who go on about the human rights paeds have. The moment they abuse a child they lose any right they had imho.

[kimi]

oh i should not get started on this one, im with bunny3 here, anyone who finds a child in any way sexy is sick to start with , and someone like that can NOT be made "normal" Ever.
Hanging is too bloody good for them, but as always the bleeding heart guardian reading liberals rant on about human rights and think a group hug will fix it, wonder if they ever think about the rights of a child scared out of it wits while some sicko fucks them!
Thing is in this world if you were to embezzle £5,000 from work you would get 15 years in jail, dont pay your road tax, and your in the shite but rape a child and you get a slap on the wrist and "rehabilitated".
Me i think they should be locked in a room with the childs family if you cant put the dirty sods down like rabid animals. Sorry thats a slur on animals. I just get so mad about the so called justice in this country, cause as far as i can see there aint much of it.

[munz]

call - I think I might well do that, althou I must admit I fear nothing will change about his sentance, after all the other bloke's one didn't.

witht eh chemical casteration, as I understood it it takes away the capablitliies of doing anything like that but not the urge (might eb wrong there) so there would be nothing to stop them violating a child in other ways.

bunny - totally agree with u, these animals do not deserve human rights and I get so when I read about the 'luxuries' they have in these prisons.

there's somehting seriously wrong with this country's justice system where this is concerned. it can't cost that much more to keep then in prison money wise compareed to letting them out to reoffend have another trial and then go to prioson again? keep em in there lock away the key and save any potential victims from harm is what I say.

(besides i'd sooner pay more in taxes if it ment that these people never came out on the street again.)

[mumandlovingit]

feel sick and disgusted.like other people have posted, crimes which are non sexual get longer sentences, that is ridiculus.im sorry but there's no way these people can be rehabilitated.they wont suddenly stop having the urge to interfere with children just because someone tells them to or supposedly counsels them through their reasons for doing it.it's sick, twisted and one of the worst crimes possible in my view.i think that once a paed is released there should be adverts around the town where they're living to alert people that they're there and should be publically announced who these people are.i dont think they're sufficiently watched etc and monitored on their release and will always pose a threat to children in the community, the same with adult rapists.cant off the top of my head remember their names but the man and woman in the news not so long back who were abusing/raping a 3 month baby!!!!! sorry but if that was my child they wouldn't have ever made it to the court, it would be me inside for their murder and i wouldnt regret that decision, ever.no one who ever hurt my child like that would ever live to have the chance to rehabilitate!
getting upset and tearful just writing this.
these people are sick and will use any part of their body to abuse a child, not just their so called manhood!!
i dont know one person who would defend a child rapist or abuser like that.in fact someone i know was inside prison with a paed and no matter what other crimes people were there for, they all stood together and made this mans life hell, repeatedly hurting him etc to the point where he was put in solitary for his own protection.not the answer i know but it proves to me that these types of crimes are in alot of ways more serious and unacceptable than other crimes that carry a longer sentence.even the criminals themselves agree!

life should be life.no exceptions.
sorry that this is long and spelling not great but writing this whilst my two children are eating breakfast.going now before i start ranting on again

[mumandlovingit]

kimi
agree with you totally

[Callisto]

Please, please do write and complain - the webster/french sentencing was reviewed because people complained. TBH I get a bit fed up with all the moaning about paedo's and rapists and the pathetic sentencing and then no-one bothers to do anything about it. This is your government, your judicial system. If you don't like it get off your butts and do something about it.

Write to Lord Goldsmith at Attorney General?s Chambers, 9 Buckingham Gate, London, SW1E 6JP or email him at [email protected]. Write or email your MP. Nothing may happen but at least you did something. Personally, I can't sleep at night if I don't try and get these sentences reviewed.

[fattiemumma]

he is absolutly vile to believe that a child of such an age could be enjoying the act.
in fact she would have been in incredible pain and may well be left with horrific internal injurie rendering her infertile!

peadophilia is a mental illness acording to psychiatrists. one for which there is no cure and therefore they will continually pose a risk to children.

it is for such reasons i bleieve in medical (or surgical) castration if they are to be released.
but i would much prefer it if they remaine in a secure hospital/prison for the entirety of their life.