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UKIP's Bloom calls women 'sluts'

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Merguez Fri 20-Sep-13 17:19:51

what do we think about this?

claig Fri 20-Sep-13 18:04:55

Bloom often seems to come up with these bloomers that harm UKIP's image.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, as many people will attest, but it almost makes you think that it may be deliberate.

UKIP have just removed the whip from him. It won't really harm UKIP as I think that most people realise that he is an outlier, and some may even think that a conspiracy theory may be involved to some extent.

JakeBullet Fri 20-Sep-13 18:06:19

Tbh I think UKIP are vocal enough to whip up real public opinion. Such a shame they don't screen their candidates a bit better.

mignonette Fri 20-Sep-13 18:07:15

We need him NOT to be sacked/silenced because these dicks are a useful reminder regarding the true nature of PUKEIT (what DS refers to them as).

Silencing allows this shower to aspire to a credibility that in reality they do not possess.

claig Fri 20-Sep-13 18:10:27

Just watched some of UKIP's conference on BBC Parliament and Farage said that the newspapers will now be full of Bloom and his antics rather than the sensible UKIP policies, so Bloom has taken serious discussion off the agenda. That is a shame, but as Farage told UKIP supporters, they should not be discouraged because they are part of the largest insurgency in British politics for the last 100 years, and their success has only just begun.

Merguez Fri 20-Sep-13 18:28:16

I think one problem is that quite a large number of people probably secretly agree with him. So it is not all that harmful for UKIP's image.

claig Fri 20-Sep-13 18:36:18

I don't think any one agrees with him. Lisa Duffy was on the UKIP panel at the conference, and it is very able people like her who are the future. Bloom is the past, he is an anachronism. Farage said that no one can be allowed to derail the UKIP bandwagon. It's rolling, it's rocking and it is going to cause an earthquake in British politics at the next European and council elections.

There will be all types of people who will try to derail it and the media will welcome them with open arms, but the public can spot a conspiracy theory coming and they won't be fooled. The road to success is strewn with snags, there'll be Blooms singing the same old tunes, but for UKIP there'll be no doom and the Westminster elite will need to vacate some of their seats and for UKIP in the Parliament make room.

clam Fri 20-Sep-13 18:40:00

Oh ffs, I've absolutely no time for UKIP but he was making a JOKE!!!

claig Fri 20-Sep-13 18:43:26

clam, yes it was a joke, but Bloom has now gone beyond a joke. He is harming UKIP's image. As Farage said, UKIP are not about being politically correct and they believe in free speech, but there is a line, and debate must be what he called "civilised".

Bowlersarm Fri 20-Sep-13 18:44:44

Taken out of context. Stupid maybe, but not outrageous.

clam Fri 20-Sep-13 18:48:00

Would personally be glad if UKIP went to the wall, but the 'slut' reference was about lax housework standards, not "round the back of the bike sheds," which is how it has come to be perceived by young people!

LadyIsabellaWrotham Fri 20-Sep-13 19:01:36

Bloom is a waste of DNA but actually I think if anyone else had made this lame joke they'd have got away with it. I can't bring myself to be outraged by elderly wordplay.

Did anyone else see Adam Hill's excellent anti-Bloom rant on the Last Leg a couple of weeks ago? I'll see if I can find it.

claig Fri 20-Sep-13 19:04:24

The problem UKIP have is convincing the public that they are a serious party. I still have my doubts as to whether they are serious or if they are intended to shoot themselves in the foot at the final hurdle and trick the voting public.

Victor Meldrew lookalikes who make crass, offensive and bad-taste jokes don't help with portraying a serious image to the voting public.

There are millions of people who voted for them in the council elections and it would be a travesty if UKIP were not really serious and if they shot themselves in the foot and put their foot in their mouth again and again and fooled the public.

I think we will see how serious they are by what action they take over Bloom and his bloopers.

WetAugust Fri 20-Sep-13 19:43:14

A Conservative MP around here told the local press a few years ago that married women only worked for "pin money" so didn't need a pay rise. His remarks didn't even make the local headlines!

Farage even warned his party conference to expect smear campaigns and for discussion of UKIP policies to be railroaded.

Have just watched C4 News and am quite disgusted at Michael Crick and the way he set out to openly provoke Bloom. The idiot Bloom hit Crick on the head with the party manifesto, allowing Crick to wallow in outrage. Crick then attempted to provoke Farage who basically told him that he was not playing, kept walking and ignored Crick.

I am really disappointed that a journalist of Crick's standing resorted to low tactics like this to provoke a response. Until now I have always thought he was a really good journalist - this has changed my views.

It just shows that now the smearing and provocation has started, UKIP must be being perceived as a real threat by some.

Of course Cameron and Clegg would rather keep the public discussing the UKIP 'fruitcakes' and idiots like Bloom than actually addressing the issue of uncontrolled immigration from within the EU and the potential for thousands of Romanians to come here in Jan 14, something that Cameron is powerless to stop.

Merguez Fri 20-Sep-13 19:50:29

Just because it was a joke doesn't make it alright. Would it have been ok if it was a racist joke, instead of a sexist one?

The problem with the word 'slut' is that it has two meanings; it also is only ever applied to women. A politician needs to choose their words very carefully nowadays - and using a word like 'slut' in public simply isn't acceptable for someone in that position.

Oh, and I heard Farage going on about Romanians and crime on the radio on the school run. Had to turn the radio off, I was so appalled.

BumbleChum Fri 20-Sep-13 19:53:45

It sounds like he used the word 'slut' meaning 'slattern' i.e. someone who doesn't care about cleaning rather than someone with loose sexual morals. I am not hugely offended by that. I am, though, hugely offended by UKIP generally, so not jumping to defend this fool. And Merguez has a point - even 'slattern' is only used against women, who judges a man for not cleaning behind the fridge? No-one!

LadyIsabellaWrotham Fri 20-Sep-13 19:56:02

Here's Adam Hills' excellent rant (not safe to view in front of children of course).

Would it be anti-feminist of me if I admitted to swooning a little bit?

claig Fri 20-Sep-13 19:58:27

"Godfrey Bloom asked BBC Newsnight's political editor Allegra Stratton whether her mother ever called her a slut.

In an interview broadcast by the BBC, Mr Bloom asked Ms Stratton: 'You're untidy, you leave your kit lying around, has your mother never called you a slut?'

Ms Stratton, laughing, replied: 'I don't think she has. She's called me other things but not that.'

Mr Bloom said: 'Perhaps you're very tidy. There was no malice, it was a joke, it was all on camera.'"

I think Bloom knows exactly what he is doing and he knows the effect that the words he chooses to use will have. You have to ask yourself what his motive, if any, might be.

Viviennemary Fri 20-Sep-13 22:12:23

It was a joke about messiness. I completely blame the press for this. How the powers that be would hate UKIP to do well. No. We must all toe the line and join in bashing those upstarts. The media are out to get them. And definitely managed it today.

Notsoyummymummy1 Fri 20-Sep-13 22:40:23

He's lost his whip for calling someone a slut? All sounds a bit too kinky for me, I'm going to switch off the news and sort my fridge out! Ahhhh feeling more chaste already!

WetAugust Fri 20-Sep-13 23:08:21

The Press are running a whole scale smear campaign against UKIP.

Yesterday it was Farage's supposed 'fascist' stance as a school boy.

Today it was Bloom-baiting (post his slut reference)

Even the Telegraph joined in earlier this evening by using a photograph that made Farage look totally uninhged. A few hours later they superimposed a video clip over the picture obscuring most of it but you can still get the gist.

UKIP must really be getting the Con/Lab/Lib parties worried. Can't they understand that the public can see through all this?


edam Fri 20-Sep-13 23:25:52

Farage must be furious at having his conference derailed in such a daft manner. Oh dear. Couldn't happen to a nicer man etc. etc. etc.

CogitoErgoSometimes Sat 21-Sep-13 08:06:17

UKIP sees their rejection of political correctness as a positive thing so withdrawing the whip from this man is nothing more than hypocrisy. They are the political wing of the Bigot Down The Pub. Alf Garnett in a rosette.

StainlessSteelBegonia Sat 21-Sep-13 08:13:25

I'm laughing out loud at the idea that "da press" has to do anything to smear UKIP. They do quite a superb job of that all by themselves - all the press has to do is turn up.

mignonette Sat 21-Sep-13 10:07:02

Whether we 'see through' whatever the press are allegedly doing or not is by the by. Still wouldn't vote for this bunch of besuited Dinosaurs.

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