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Jammybean Wed 21-Aug-13 22:11:31

Just watching BBC news, they were frantically trying to save a toddler who was convulsing . I feel physically sick.

celticclan Wed 21-Aug-13 22:13:57

Unbelievable. My heart goes out to the people of Syria. We have waited too long and too many lives have been lost. The rest of the world must now take action against the murderous regime.

Jammybean Wed 21-Aug-13 22:15:30

I don't understand why nothing is being done. The world watches whilst Assad continues bombing innocent children.

Jammybean Wed 21-Aug-13 22:18:27

I don't get what other atrocities he needs to commit before we say "this needs to stop"! I know the issues are far more complex but I feel so angry.

FourGates Wed 21-Aug-13 22:39:06

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BlingBang Thu 22-Aug-13 02:18:16

Seems the toddler didn't make it - poor beautiful little boy. Just don't know what's happening there and who's doing what. So may different claims and stories coming through. If this can be confirmed and laid at Assad's door then surely he can't walk from this.

fromparistoberlin Thu 22-Aug-13 12:13:43

there are no words, really.

Horrific beyond words

may all their blessed souls rest in peace, its just so awful that I cant even get my head around the evil

and I have no idea what can be done, bar invading them. and that diod not exactly work last time did it

nenevomito Thu 22-Aug-13 12:16:40

I watched that last night and seeing those children broke my heart. I'm not a sentimental person at all, but it was horrifc. Utterly horiffic.

diyfan Thu 22-Aug-13 14:23:30

Beyond words. Surely we can sometime, somewhere come up with something to end these atrocities. Heartbreaking every time it happens. There have been so many.

currentbuns Thu 22-Aug-13 17:46:16

There seems to be some confusion about who is responsible. Assad is clearly evil beyond words, yet many people are claiming that the rebels are just as bad. I don't know what to think. Then those images of the dead, those innocent children, it's just awful beyond words.

filee777 Thu 22-Aug-13 19:15:38

I'm sorry I dont buy it, the UN have investigators just a 20min drive away from where this attack happened looking for chemical weapons.

I am not disagreeing this attack happened, but I dont believe it was the government.

Something needs to be done about Syria but I dont think removing the system of government and allowing a free-for-all of these 'rebel' forces who seem quite happy to brutally murder children to 'frame' the government is the answer.

BlingBang Thu 22-Aug-13 21:35:41

I wouldn't put anything past the rebels either, those that are mercenaries or fanatics and have been flown in for someone's agenda. Hard to know what the answer is - I admit I don't really understand it all.

LadyMaryQuiteContrary Thu 22-Aug-13 21:37:49

I may be living in a parallel universe, but there were news reports and images about them doing this months ago and the world did nothing.

filee777 Fri 23-Aug-13 08:13:12

Well, the un sent in chemical weapons experts to check the situation but they have been denied access to much of Syria by both the government and the rebels.

There is huge speculation about who is doing the killing and certainly the 'rebels' have a lot more to gain from international involvement.

Doobydoo Fri 23-Aug-13 19:08:02

The UN are as much use as a chocolate teapot!...iT IS ALL so hideous.1 million children are refugees....why cannot someone assasinate him? Then again what would happen then?
Utter nightmare

meditrina Fri 23-Aug-13 19:12:45

It's horrible, isn't it.

And there is no easy solution to a civil war.

Either you let it be fought out without spilling over (and we see more atrocities) or you go in to depose the loathsome regime. But unless you have a clear idea for a post-conflict plan, you're re-running Iraq. And I think there is even less certainty about an alternative regime in Syria than there was in Iraq. Neither of these options is palatable.

Anyone any ideas for others?

filee777 Fri 23-Aug-13 19:20:54

My idea would be to make it absolutely illegal to sell weapons to cunts. If caught selling weapons to cunts you get jail for life.

It really comes down to regulating the arms trade

Meglet Fri 23-Aug-13 20:00:50

Is it still Russia and China who are blocking the UN from going in? Does every member have to agree, or do certain countries have more say than others?

I know the UN have to deal with it in a cool headed way just as well I'm not a diplomat, but I don't know how they can sleep at night. There have already been massacres in Syria and it seems they'll wait for another one.

NiceTabard Fri 23-Aug-13 20:58:52

Russia have said the UN need to be allowed in - on BBC reporting today.

Don't know what China saying.

meditrina Fri 23-Aug-13 21:26:59

The UN both has to secure agreement (China usually abstains) from Security Council, and also find who will actually send the troops.

The UN cannot order a country to supply Forces, and has none of its own. Dealing with troop contributing countries is not straightforward (see what happened in Yugoslavia), nor is constructing a workable mission if UN cannot muster numbers/types of troops, expertise and equipment initially hoped for.

NicholasTeakozy Fri 23-Aug-13 21:33:28

I can't believe Assad would be so stupid as to use chemical weapons whilst an inspection team are less than ten miles away. I can believe the rebels did it though. There was a report somewhere translated from a French news site stating that 'outside agents' have been in Syria since 17th August. I'll see if I can find it.

meditrina Fri 23-Aug-13 21:37:16

Remember Obama giving a warning a few months back to "those who guard the CW stockpiles"? It struck me as a (strangely) careful phrase at the time, and it could mean all sorts now.

SilverSixpence Fri 23-Aug-13 21:40:11

The news is so disturbing, I can't bear to watch the videos of children having fits or dead.

I wouldn't put it past Assad - what reason has the UN given him so far to fear them? As someone said, they are utterly powerless and he knows it. And if he didn't do it, then surely he would let the weapons inspectors in.

NicholasTeakozy Fri 23-Aug-13 21:46:47

If this article is to be believed we should be very afraid. If even half of it is true. Blimey.

This isn't the article I read earlier, that had a translation from a French site, sorry, can't find it atm.

Pan Fri 23-Aug-13 21:54:58

It's rare to find the Coalition govt being 'braver' than an Obama administration in these things, but Hague is clearly pointing the finger at Assad and is taking a lead in the UN - Obama is, unfortunatley, citing' grave concern' - where exactly is Obama's 'line' that he so bravely threatened a few months ago now happening? They want to avoid another expensive 'war on the other side of their world, but the shit relations with Russia over US spying means they are a bit hoisted. Obama is appearing (regularly now) as a cipher for his advisors.

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