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Frack in the Desolate North East

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NotYoMomma Tue 30-Jul-13 14:32:16

I despair - I really do.

No wonder we are all bloody Labour angry

MaryPoppinsBag Sat 10-Aug-13 11:48:40

I've just found out they intend to start Fracking to the north and south of my village. Don't know where yet as exact locations have not been given.
I'm in what could be described as the desolate north east. Residents in my township are worried and annoyed as it seems to have been given the go ahead without any consultation and it is to happen quite soon. hmmhmmhmm

frazzled1772 Thu 01-Aug-13 23:28:00

I don't know about the economic case for tax breaks - Lord Browne recently appointed to the cabinet by West Sussex MP Frances Maude holds a 30% share in Cuadrilla, the company currently exploring here in Sussex and Lancashire. Ben Moxham - special government advisor and Baroness Hogg -amongst others have connections either to Cuadrilla or the oil industry. That might have something to do with the tax breaks...just a thought

ParsingFancy Thu 01-Aug-13 17:25:59

^ Genuine Qs.

If someone can explain the economic case for tax breaks, I'd be really interested.

ParsingFancy Thu 01-Aug-13 17:24:34

And if the price of hydrocarbons doesn't justify the cost of extraction without tax breaks, why are we extracting them now? They'll still be there in 20 years if there's a shortage and the price goes up.

It's not like oil companies are garage start-ups without a penny to invest in development, who need help during the lead time before extraction comes onstream.

ParsingFancy Thu 01-Aug-13 17:18:55

Not sure I entirely understand the point of the tax breaks.

Are we worried the shale will wander off and be fracked in China, or something?

letshaveacupoftea Thu 01-Aug-13 16:59:21

Please take a look at Frack Off.
Their website is a great starting point if only to see their location map - yes fracking is coming potentially in lots of areas of the UK, and the government is offering tax breaks to encourage oil companies to get stuck in.
Big deals are being negotiated as we write. If we don't want it we need to make our opinion known now.

ExitPursuedByABear Thu 01-Aug-13 13:30:45

Oooh - not sure about Harrogate -

But Cheshire and Surrey are indistinguishable from each other.

ParsingFancy Thu 01-Aug-13 12:57:25

<snurk> Wilmslow and Harrogate = bits of Surrey that escaped.

ExitPursuedByABear Thu 01-Aug-13 12:39:27

Yep. Isn't it all part of the same process.

I don't think Wilmslow considers itself northern does it?

ParsingFancy Thu 01-Aug-13 11:54:39

oil gas

Why do I think there's oil in shale? Is that a thing, too?

ParsingFancy Thu 01-Aug-13 11:53:34

Ahahahaha! Desolate Southport then?

You know what, we don't need fracking at all.

Just put Howell over the oil and he'll dig all the way down.

NicholasTeakozy Thu 01-Aug-13 10:58:30

The North West? That'll go down well in Wilmslow.

ExitPursuedByABear Thu 01-Aug-13 10:17:01

Well it is all ok now because he really meant to say the North West.

<gives up and stares out of window at unloved land>

edam Wed 31-Jul-13 22:40:15

Frazzled, yes, I know, but some comments made it sound as if he had some business interest in fracking?

frazzled1772 Wed 31-Jul-13 21:43:41

Edam - Lord Howell is former energy minister and George Osborne's father in law.

frazzled1772 Wed 31-Jul-13 21:41:08

Balcombe residents trusted the local county council to act in the interests of the community - until recently there has been a lack of knowledge about fracking locally -but obviously people are more aware now. We have to get permission to prune our trees it was assumed that similar rules would be in place to prevent the process. Also in the 80s it was drilled conventionally and that came to nothing - so a lot of people thought that the same thing would happen again - people were not taking into account changes in technology which enable oil trapped in the rock to be released.

Eyesunderarock Wed 31-Jul-13 08:00:37

I think that's one of the things that shocked Balcombe, wonky, it is very much a Tory stronghold, as are large areas of Sussex.
They never thought that a Conservative government would do this sort of thing in their area, along with the massive house-building schemes that keep being attempted.
The shock is real, they thought it would always impact somewhere else.

wonkylegs Wed 31-Jul-13 07:24:21

I always thought the main attraction of the NE was it's lack of Tory tossers idiots.
I knew when they came up with this Fracking idea that there would be some kind of idiotic idea that it was fine as long as it was outside of the Tory backyards.

NicholasTeakozy Wed 31-Jul-13 07:18:42

Frack off! Not objective, but useful nonetheless.

edam Tue 30-Jul-13 22:54:40

what's Howell's connection to fracking - is he a director of companies that stand to gain or something?

edam Tue 30-Jul-13 22:52:42

It's always nice to see the bastards dropping the veil and revealing what they really think.

ouryve Tue 30-Jul-13 19:35:01

If it was on his doorstep, he would most likely have used the word "unspoilt" rather than desolate. hmm


NicholasTeakozy Tue 30-Jul-13 19:30:17

Sorry for my flippancy earlier, I've only just seen the news. Why am I not surprised it's Gidiots father in law involved, given his connection to fracking. You have to wonder why he (Gidiot) gave so much in the way of tax breaks to his fil fracking companies.

NotYoMomma Tue 30-Jul-13 17:02:27

its the way he worded it - it drew gasps from the room

I find it all very frustrating

Eyesunderarock Tue 30-Jul-13 15:25:16

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