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another woman killed by abusive partner . RIP Julie Beattie (upsetting)

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fromparistoberlin Thu 25-Jul-13 21:28:57

I read the story in my more detail on the tube, but here is link :

we heard that one woman a week (?) is killed by an abusive partner, here is another tragic victim

she had 4 children, and they saw her injured

I am sure this will merit little media attention, and I am starting to struggle with this

this seems to happen ALOT, do we need to educuate boys/girls differently? the stats seem disproportionately skewed, too many

again, RIP and my condolances to her family

sweetsummerlove Thu 25-Jul-13 21:31:38

My god. That is awful.

:-( the poor poor women, and her children. I just. . I don't even understand how someone could be so vile

SaucyJack Thu 25-Jul-13 21:32:45

What's the AIBU?

Fraxinus Thu 25-Jul-13 21:34:09

Paris to Berlin.... Itis important to talk about it when it does happen. I was shocked to find an acquaintance had gone to prison for murdering his wife recently.. We need to understand why these terrible things happen.

Awful though it is... Good for you for sharing.

SarahAndFuck Thu 25-Jul-13 21:34:43

That's shocking, that poor woman.

How evil do you have to be to do that to someone. My god.

Her poor family.

lessemin Thu 25-Jul-13 21:34:53

Nice one Saucyjack hmm

YellowDinosaur Thu 25-Jul-13 21:36:41

That is just awful sad

YellowDinosaur Thu 25-Jul-13 21:37:36

Really Saucyjack? Posting that on a thread like this just makes you look like a total and utter cunt.

softlysoftly Thu 25-Jul-13 21:38:17

I feel sick her poor babies

Silverfoxballs Thu 25-Jul-13 21:40:14

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

fromparistoberlin Thu 25-Jul-13 21:41:58

I know posting this could be seen as tactless, but I feel very strongly that her murder should be noted. For her children, to know one day other people were outraged

that there has to be a tipping point

saucy , aibu gets more traffic and I know that are people on here (more than RL) that will care

HarrietSchulenberg Thu 25-Jul-13 21:42:18

I think SaucyJack is questioning why this is in AIBU.

HarrietSchulenberg Thu 25-Jul-13 21:42:41

Ah, Fromparistoberlin, I see.

bearleftmonkeyright Thu 25-Jul-13 21:44:21

I cannot believe the brutaloty of this. How could this happen? Why?

HollyBerryBush Thu 25-Jul-13 21:50:59

I dont see how you can say there will be little media attention and you post a link to a newspaper.

There are 700 odd murders a year in the uk, most I would have thought by virtue of being homicides will be brutal but it would be unreasonable to expect anyone to read reports on all the deceased. These things tend to remain localised within communities.

SaucyJack Thu 25-Jul-13 21:51:58

No need to call me names YellowDinosaur

I just don't see the need to share horrible news articles for sheer misery's sake.

If there's something to be discussed, or an issue to be raised then that's different.

fromparistoberlin Thu 25-Jul-13 21:55:33

"There are 700 odd murders a year in the uk

I get that, but I feel that worrying high percentage, are women killed by their partners

anyway, Ill get this moved to "in the news" I think

caramelwaffle Thu 25-Jul-13 21:56:31

RIP Julie Beattie

HollyBerryBush Thu 25-Jul-13 21:57:04

Last set of full statistics out (2011) show the fall in homicide crimes of 6% -far more men than women die a violent death.

The fall in the murder rate in the 12 months to September 2010 was accompanied by a 9% fall in gun crime and a 6% fall in knife offences. The 619 deaths recorded on the homicide index was the lowest since the 606 murders in 1997/98. In 2009/10 , 421 victims were male and 198 were female

RowanMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 25-Jul-13 22:06:06


We've moved this to In The News now at the OP's request.

BOF Thu 25-Jul-13 22:08:23

Yeah, men kill each other quite a lot as well as women. Male violence is a huge blight on our society.

secretsoutherncomfortdrinker Thu 25-Jul-13 22:24:16

this is sickening it breaks my heart and to now this happend around the corner from where i live and this is the first i am hearing about it just goes to show that there is not enough media coverage of this kind of crime.
r.i.p julie

ILovePonyo Thu 25-Jul-13 22:30:58

2 women a week on average are killed by their partners or ex partners.

So sad, her poor children. Rip

edam Thu 25-Jul-13 22:51:00

It's horrific. Poor woman - and how the hell her children are ever going to be able to cope with what they saw, their mother being taken from them so horribly, I do not know.

zatyaballerina Fri 26-Jul-13 01:15:19

The problem is that violent offenders aren't properly punished for lesser transgressions before they reach this level of violence. By the time they have escalated to murder there is often a long history of violent behaviour. They keep escalating as they get away with more and more. This scumbag should have been in prison long ago for his abuse and kept there for a very long time, prison should also be awful enough to act as a deterrent.

The only way to deal with violent offenders whether they be domestic attackers or street attackers is harsh sentences and mandatory rehabilitation before release for any unprovoked assault committed against another. Don't give them the opportunity to escalate into murderers in the first place.

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