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THIS is how Dzhokhar Tsarnaev looked climbing OUT of that boat

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Ponders Fri 19-Jul-13 11:45:15

there was some debate at the time over whether the unbloody CCTV images were of him climbing into or out of the boat

bloody Boston police photographs leaked to press (because of glamorous Rolling Stone cover)

RhondaJean Fri 19-Jul-13 19:42:19

They're startlingly clear aren't they?

Boomba Fri 19-Jul-13 20:57:29

i dont understand....about why this photo has been 'leaked' in response to the Rolling Stones cover confused

what is startlingly clear rhonda?

Ponders Fri 19-Jul-13 21:50:41

Whatever the original intention, the Rolling Stone cover seems to endorse his image as a glamour boy

Apparently he's been getting lots of fan mail from groupie girls hmm

crescentmoon Fri 19-Jul-13 21:56:40

its that racial profiling doesnt work boomba.

for days after the boston bombings they were looking for a "dark" skinned asian/arab/african muslim - because religion and race are the same thing in america and any non white person can be mistaken for a muslim, (even sikhs have been attacked for 'looking' muslim with their turbans and brown skin)

but in the end the bombers turned out to be caucasian, from the caucasus - the real deal white. thats the cognitive dissonance the rolling stones cover triggered

and why they tried to release the boston police pictures to counteract it. but the police pictures still show he's white, not an arab/ afghan/ black foreigner.

"Tsarnaev, and specifically his picture, is an uncomfortable truth for many. In today’s highly caffeinated, instant opinion echo chamber, Tsarnaev’s image is a wrench into the spinning centrifuge of xenophobic hatred and mistrust of “them.” Those who’ve spent the last decade screeching that profiling was the answer to America’s security woes have run smack into reality. The way a person looks has nothing to do with how he or she thinks. When you stuff people into boxes based on how they look, you miss the slowly simmering stew inside. The reason they didn’t suspect Jahar was because he didn’t look like the type.

The cover is important, and Tsarnaev’s story is vital for people to understand. It proves the futility and fallacy of the “War on Terror.” You can’t declare War on an idea and you can’t assign an idea to a part of the world or color of a person’s skin. Proponents of frequent drone strikes, carpet bombs and “fighting them there” get cracked in the face when the new face of Islamic terrorism is white."

Ponders Fri 19-Jul-13 22:59:44


creighton Sat 20-Jul-13 13:20:22

I thought the problem was that he does look 'cool', like a rock star. when he was getting out of the boat dishevelled and covered in blood, he did not look so appealing. those photos show another reality.

Boomba Sat 20-Jul-13 15:01:02

i dont think they show anything confused

Its pretty obvious that someone wouldnt look so good after a 48 hour police chase, after being shot isnt it? confused

Where did the Rolling Stone, get that photo though? Tis a bit odd

Ponders Sat 20-Jul-13 17:06:19

it was his twitter profile pic

SacreBlue Sat 20-Jul-13 17:26:36

The pictures of him coming out from the boat actually made me feel incredibly sorry for him. They, and the front cover, show that terrorists are not some stereotype monster - but ordinary people.

creighton Sat 20-Jul-13 19:23:51

it's terrible that a person has gone so wrong so early in life. i wonder if he ever really thought about the consequences of his actions and where he would end up.

Secretswitch Sat 20-Jul-13 19:31:30

A Massachusetts State police officer leaked those pictures to the press because he believed the Rolling Stone cover glamourised this despicable excuse for a human.
I was at the Boston Marathon. You cannot imagine the terror I felt on that day, especially as my dd and her friend had gone off to find my cousin who had just finished her run. My dd still is experiencing nightmares and other trauma.
A survivor of the blast was the first to give the police a description of the terrorists. He lost both legs and was going into surgery, but managed to let the authorities know whom to look for.
Save your pity for those dead and injured in the blast.

Secretswitch Sat 20-Jul-13 19:34:04

Ponders, you might wish to have your facts correct before posting something of this nature. Massachusetts State Police are a far different breed from the Boston Police.

Ponders Sat 20-Jul-13 20:10:19

in what way does that make any difference to what I've posted, secretswitch?

Secretswitch Sat 20-Jul-13 22:40:07

If you intend to post something about the " bloody Boston Police" you would do well to have your facts correct.

Skintorama Sat 20-Jul-13 22:44:06

That's not what Ponders said, you doofus.

She meant bloody as in he is covered in blood....

I'm so sorry you were caught up in the horror of that blast, by the way. Best wishes to you and your dd.

Secretswitch Sat 20-Jul-13 22:50:42

Oh FFS! Then I am well an idiot! Christ, I do apologise! I wish their was a doofus emoticon...
And thank you both for pointing out my error..and your good wishes.
My dd is receiving therapy. She vacillates between feeling really lucky and really sad. The pictures do not do justice to the amount of blood on the ground.

Secretswitch Sat 20-Jul-13 22:52:53

And obviously, this subject is far to close to me. I really reacted and did not respond to the op in a fair manner. Please excuse my behaviour. I shall step away now..

Twirlyhot Sat 20-Jul-13 23:00:35

The controversy about the cover is that they gave him a cover. It's Rolling Stone. I wasn't aware they covered news and a lot of other people weren't apparently. They chose an angelic looking shot of someone who did something horrific. They also have covers of high profile rock stars. The argument is that they are glamourising him, which is supposedly why the man leaked the official picture. The magazine's argument is that ... It sells and it's visually challenging the prevailing ideology. And stuff.

Ponders Sat 20-Jul-13 23:30:00

secretswitch, I'm sorry for rearing up at you blush I realise now my OP wasn't tactfully worded

of course having experienced the horror of the day you are sensitive to comments about it. I'm glad your family members weren't hurt & I hope your poor DD will eventually be able to deal with what she went through & move on.

Secretswitch Sun 21-Jul-13 01:39:17

Ponders, please don't give it another thought! I hit the over reaction switch at high speed. Please know I really try not to be a doofus in real life blush

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