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Jeremy Forrest on trial

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PatPig Tue 11-Jun-13 22:12:58

Slightly absurdly, his 15-year-old girlfriend, all over the newspapers at the time, is no longer allowed to be named.

wildstrawberryplace Sat 22-Jun-13 15:11:13

Gah! Sorry wrong thread

wildstrawberryplace Sat 22-Jun-13 15:10:54

Thuka trendy You can buy a single bed and then another one later with the bunking kit.

SusieSusieSheep Sat 22-Jun-13 11:22:43

I thought his sentence seemed a bit harsh but when I read the judge's statement it kind of made sense. Some judges do seem to go quite light on things like murder, in comparison, though.

PatPig Sat 22-Jun-13 02:10:56

Tomorrow's Daily Mail in full:

Page 1- 'Paedo filth groomed young girl'
complete with foot-high picture of said girl in tight dress, just in case anyone was confused what a girl looks like.
Page 6 - 'My hasn't she grown - star's 15 year old sister is busting out all over' - exclusive photo
Page 11 - Editorial - 'It is absolutely disgusting and wrong that grown men are sexually attracted to schoolgirls, and it is right that a strong message is sent out to those who have lustful thoughts about young girls, by locking them up for 5 1/2 years'
Page 13 - Sun shines in UK for first time in a week - here are some photos we caught of schoolgirls on the beach in bikinis, just in case you don't believe us

EvenEducatedFleasDoIt Fri 21-Jun-13 23:32:28

I'd also like to express shock at thinking the DM would publish a photograph of me wearing a figure-hugging black and red outfit they paid for on the front page, the very day after Jez was convicted. I need to consult my agent.

DuelingFanjo Fri 21-Jun-13 23:27:41

If he or his family/friends did put pressure on the girl to present her story a certain way then that just adds to the catAlogue of attempts to conceal/groom/manipulate and lie. How anyone can defend him is beyond me.

EvenEducatedFleasDoIt Fri 21-Jun-13 23:16:41

Yes, he tried to groom me as well.not really. It was awful. The pain has only been lightened by the large cheque a DM reporter just handed me.

KRITIQ Fri 21-Jun-13 23:03:43

Police are investigating whether teacher Jeremy Forrest indirectly contacted the schoolgirl he abducted to get her to change her story.

KRITIQ Fri 21-Jun-13 22:59:25

Appears this may not be the only time he has groomed a child for sex.

flippinada Fri 21-Jun-13 22:40:31

I think there are definitely questions to be asked about Bishop Bell. Two serious offences by teachers in 3 years...?

edam Fri 21-Jun-13 22:10:51

Thehuf - that may have been a request from the police, who believed it would help their investigation, or that specifying the exact nature of their relationship would harm it.

Sadly the teacher's history fits into a long story of child abuse scandals at Bishop Bell school with previous teachers and the Chair of Governors. Despite all that, the head and senior leaders turned a blind eye to Forrest's grooming of this girl, even when children and teachers were warning about it. I don't know why those in charge at that school are so happy to allow children in their charge to be sexually exploited again and again.

MooseBeTimeForSpring Fri 21-Jun-13 21:30:42

So, had abduction been the only offence and he got a one year sentence for that, he would have been released taking into account time already served.

TheHuffAndPuffALot Fri 21-Jun-13 21:18:42

I may well have missed this bit of info somewhere but in the second Mail article Op linked to (where they have just gone missing), why is there no mention of him being a teacher? In the article he's supposedly a 'family friend'.

And I'm also surprised that,with his criminal record, he would have been allowed to teach anyway.

So was he actually teaching when the relationship developed (not necessarily her)?

learnandsay Fri 21-Jun-13 15:53:59

Mugo, that's a totally different type of offence. I'd be happy to see paedophile teachers locked up for ever, frankly.

Mugofteaforme Fri 21-Jun-13 15:29:37

Five and a half is too much, sorry. Compare for instance the storey below, longer I know, but.....

learnandsay Fri 21-Jun-13 15:21:24

Judge's comments

Spot on I'd say, exactly what I was hoping for. I'd say the sentence length is a significant disappointment; it could have comfortably been double that. But it's a step in the right direction.

learnandsay Fri 21-Jun-13 14:02:44

If the Oxford 7 get eye-watering sentences, which I'm hoping for, then I'll reserve judgement on how seriously abuse is taken here.

georgedawes Fri 21-Jun-13 13:58:41

Stewart Hall sentence was a fucking disgrace.

As I said Patpig, just because others have had sentences that are low does not make me think this was reasonabe; more that theirs were far too low.

I don't think this country takes abuse against the vulnerable seriously enough.

PatPig Fri 21-Jun-13 13:38:32

He'll only potentially be out in 2 years because he has already served 9 months.

It's longer than other people have served.

EasterHoliday Fri 21-Jun-13 13:38:03

5 1/2 years?
stewart hall is busy counting his lucky stars

georgedawes Fri 21-Jun-13 13:33:06

Well I'm not really interested if other sentences are too low; having sex with a vulnerable child in your care and abducting her by taking her to a foreign country..he'll be out in 2 years. I think that is short and just hope it is enough time for his victim to get out of his clutches.

PatPig Fri 21-Jun-13 13:28:56

Five-and-a-half-years is quite a long sentence, in British penal terms. You can do some pretty horrific things and get less than that.

It's a clear message that you can't have sex with your pupils, tbh.

georgedawes Fri 21-Jun-13 13:28:51

The guardian says he wasn't charged with the child sex offences until after the abduction trial because of the extradition conditions.

Personally I think the sentence is very light.

scaevola Fri 21-Jun-13 13:25:05

He did make sentencing remarks (BBC mentioned that in passing - I was all happening at time of lunchtime news) but haven't seen/heard proper account of them yet.

learnandsay Fri 21-Jun-13 13:22:14

I suspect the word abduction is being used in its technical sense, (rather than in its dramatic sense) hence the short-looking sentence.

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