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Serving soldier attacks a woman and escapes jail because of his job

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tungthai Thu 30-May-13 18:33:20

Sorry can't link on this phone. www.swindonadvertiser/news/proudofyourselfsergeant

A soldier launches a vicious attack on a female in a nightclub. The judge said ordinarily he would face a prison sentence but because of his exemplary service in the Army he gets away with a conditional discharge.

What sort of message does this send out?

I for sure do not feel comfortable with someone like him patrolling the streets of Afghanistan.

pointythings Thu 30-May-13 19:31:41

He should not have had preferential treatment unless he can demonstrate mitigating circumstances such as PTSD. No hiding behind the uniform for anyone.

WildEyedAndHairy Thu 30-May-13 20:02:21

Link for you. Exemplary service and "a father figure" according to the magistrate hmm. I would have thought a tougher than usual sentence would be more appropriate if anything?

tungthai Thu 30-May-13 20:08:28

The more I think about this the more angry it makes me feel.

There were no mitigating circumstances. He had no defence.

tungthai Thu 30-May-13 20:09:30

Thanks for the link Wildeyed. smile

LifeofPo Thu 30-May-13 20:18:57

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BOF Thu 30-May-13 20:20:31

If a firefighter or police officer did that, they'd be seen as a disgrace to the profession and be sacked.

Chubfuddler Thu 30-May-13 20:22:23

People say some soldiers do things like this due to combat stress etc.

I do wonder if its just the other way round, and some (note some) people are drawn to the armed forces because they are instinctively bullies and it provides an opportunity to give vent to violent instincts.

Chubfuddler Thu 30-May-13 20:22:49

I wish I thought that were true Bof. The police can be just as bad.

BOF Thu 30-May-13 20:26:47

Really? I thought it was in their contracts- a friend of mine works for the fire service and said that domestic violence etc (so I assume common assault in public too) meant instant dismissal. I really hope that's the case.

Chubfuddler Thu 30-May-13 20:28:45

I don't know about what is on their contracts. If it iOS I suppose it would require a conviction and what wife is going to complain to the police about a serving police officer?

It's bloody depressing.

JazzAnnNonMouse Thu 30-May-13 20:29:04


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pointythings Thu 30-May-13 20:34:10

I've just read the link. It's an appalling travesty of justice, in my opinion the prosecution should be seeking an appeal on the grounds of excessive lenience.

Boomba Thu 30-May-13 22:00:32

thats disgusting

fromparistoberlin Thu 30-May-13 23:14:30


you see this is why i sometimes like twitter and DM, they publicise stories like this and generate outrage

as for that magistrate, jesus. I thought her dads statement was ace

GoshAnneGorilla Fri 31-May-13 13:01:47

This is the downside to all the "heroes" malarky.

Agree with whoever upthread said he was hiding behind the uniform.

MrsTerryPratchett Fri 31-May-13 15:31:27

What is really worrying is that he assaulted her because she 'rebuffed' him. So, he gets violent when women don't want to be sexually involved with him. Very scary.

Boomba Fri 31-May-13 15:34:23

i dont consider that soldier=hero, at all

suckmabigtoe Fri 31-May-13 15:41:27


HappyAsEyeAm Fri 31-May-13 15:47:54

This is awful. Why has there been no outcry?

tungthai Fri 31-May-13 16:37:09

The story doesn't even seem to be getting much attention in Swindon. It is no longer listed in their newsfeed which is based on viewing figures.

I think it's worth a letter to the editor at least.

phantomnamechanger Fri 31-May-13 20:30:48

crikey that's awful! Another one trying the "I can't remember" line. Are we expected to sympathise with people too drunk to behave themselves or remember their actions?

I also agree that some soldiers, a very small minority, are in the job because they want to vent their violent natures -though one would hope they have some means of weeding these sort out when they try to join up. Then again, violent creeps like this can often seem charming and normal to the world, while being violent bullies in the home etc

Darkesteyes Fri 31-May-13 22:07:07

These stories never do get prevelance because they interfere with the hero rhetoric. Look at what happens with a certain website and the stuff that they post about violence towards women. The website that has trolled this one in the past. ......nothing.
A media research request was put in from Glamour magazine almost three months ago about the reporting of sexual assaults . I mentioned this website in an e mail to them.
The way the monthly mags work is they usually plan issues 3 months in advance so it should be in the July issue which is out next week. I still doubt this other website will get a mention though.

Boomba Fri 31-May-13 22:12:29

what website darkesteyes?

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