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The bravery of the women caught up in the terrible events in Woolwich yesterday is inspiring.

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Twogoodreasons Thu 23-May-13 12:20:09

From the cub leader confronting a suspect, to the woman who pushed passed the attackers to pray over the body of the dying soldier, to the police woman who took the unenviable and brave decision to shoot the suspects. One positive observation from very troubling events.

Pootles2010 Thu 23-May-13 12:24:17

Agreed. Can always take hope in these situations that the good people outweigh the bad.

pinkteddy Thu 23-May-13 12:27:36

Agree totally. I was amazed by the interview in the Guardian with Ingrid Loyau-Kennett. What a brave lady. here

Mitchy1nge Thu 23-May-13 12:29:06


gazzalw Thu 23-May-13 12:30:08

She deserves some sort of award/commendation. Baden-Powell would have been proud of such plucky spirit wink from one of his own...

Her actions restore one's faith in human nature....

Twogoodreasons Thu 23-May-13 12:31:42

Thanks for the link pinkteddy - I love the fact that the only thing that got to her was the fact that the bus dropped her off at the wrong stop! So very brave.

StealthOfficialCrispTester Thu 23-May-13 12:33:24

Wow. They really are brave. You get the impression from that interview in the Guardian that the woman hasn't yet realised the magnitude of it all don't you?

tabulahrasa Thu 23-May-13 12:34:49

I was just about to say about the bus stopping, lol.

Checking the pulse of a dead/dying man, talking to murderers - fine, the bus not going to the right stop? Not on. Lol

StealthOfficialCrispTester Thu 23-May-13 12:35:10

I had tears in my eyes when reading "do you want to give me what's in your hand?"
Would you want to be standing with the knife in your hand when the Police turn up? Yet she was obviously willing to do anything to stop anyone else getting hurt

SPsCliffingAllOverMN Thu 23-May-13 12:36:16

I hope she isn't alone when the shock kicks in and the enormity of what she did dawns on her. Brave women.

Mitchy1nge Thu 23-May-13 12:36:18

argh thread is making me cry a lot

StealthOfficialCrispTester Thu 23-May-13 12:37:50

Exactly sps. I suspect shes in for a few disturbed nights

SPsCliffingAllOverMN Thu 23-May-13 12:40:06

And I hope the women who sheltered the mams body brought a tiny bit of comfort to the mans family. He wasn't alone and I hope he knew that.

Twogoodreasons Thu 23-May-13 12:43:49

I imagine she is the type of person who has a great network of friends and family around her. smile

I hope this becomes the focus of the analysis following this tragedy. This, along with thoughts for the victim and his family, rather than any knee-jerk anti-Muslim or generally racist rhetoric.

ihatethecold Thu 23-May-13 12:44:08

Wow. Brave lady.

Smartieaddict Thu 23-May-13 12:51:01

I agree completely OP. Well done for starting this thread. Hopefully it will help people focus on the fact that the vast majority of people are good, and in some cases can do amazing things.

These men wanted to start a war. The last thing they should get is what they want. Hopefully this will have the opposite effect and people will pull together to stop this kind of thing happening again!

HeySoulSister Thu 23-May-13 12:56:20

did a female police officer shoot both the men? have not seen that

Twogoodreasons Thu 23-May-13 13:02:54

That is what was initially reported by eyewitnesses. I imagine nothing will be officially confirmed.

bkgirl Thu 23-May-13 14:20:39

I totally agree. Their courage was immense and no doubt contributed to no-one else getting hurt.

GoodbyePorkPie Thu 23-May-13 14:30:42

What Ingrid Loyau-Kennet did was extraordinary. I was open mouthed reading that interview.

As Anne Frank said: "Despite everything, I believe that people are really good at heart."

donnie Thu 23-May-13 15:00:07

I was open mouthed too when I read the interview in the Guardian, and as little bit teary eyed. What am amazing woman. The ability to be completely calm and to treat those killers in the way she did. Quite extraordinary.
And the two women who sheltered the poor soldier's body and gave him some dignity as he lay dying. In the weeks and days to come that will mean so, so much to his friends and family. Good for them.

StealthOfficialCrispTester Thu 23-May-13 15:48:32

I've just watched the video. While he's mid rant there is a woman who just walks past him as if he's just another guy on the street. At this point was it not clear that something big was taking place? Were people still going about their normal business?

Quangle Thu 23-May-13 15:58:21

Amazing. I must say had I been there I would have run very fast in the other direction. I thought the same watching the footage of the Boston bombing. There was an aerial shot and when the bomb went off, almost everyone ran in the direction of the bomb - to see if they could help. I know I would have run the other way.

My friend says this is just a legacy of growing up in London with bombs going off - he was standing outside the World Trade Centre when the first planes hit and lots of people were standing staring and wondering what the hell was going on and he just instantly got it and legged it.

But this London incident suggests that there are people who are willing to walk right into danger. I take my hat off to them.

secretscwirrels Thu 23-May-13 16:40:11

I just went to pick up my newspaper and I am beyond fuming with the British press. Photographs on the front pages of the perpetrators covered in blood and wielding an axe.
No one needs to see that. That poor boy's mother.

lemonmuffin Thu 23-May-13 16:41:28

I know secretscwirrells. That poor woman, I weep for her.

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