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Missing women found in Ohio

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CogitoErgoSometimes Tue 07-May-13 06:29:30


When the story of Natasha Kampusch broke in 2006 it seemed like a bizarre one-off. Since then we've heard about Jaycee Dugard and one or two others. Now three more missing women (possibly more) have been found at a place in Ohio seemingly having been held captive for many years. Good conclusion to a tragic story and makes you wonder if there's anyone in the UK, written off as missing, but being similarly held against their will. Thinking about the case of Claudia Lawrence, for example.

TheSmallPrint Fri 10-May-13 16:19:53

I'd quite like him to go through 10 years of what he put those girls through tbh.

CheerfulYank Fri 10-May-13 10:36:23

It'll cause a big to-do...always does between the pro choice and life camps when murder victims are fetuses.

Booyhoo Fri 10-May-13 09:38:10

I agree niceguy. Solitary confinement not executionn.

CheerfulYank Fri 10-May-13 09:21:25

Yes, he'll be eligible for Ohio's death penalty as forced miscarriage counts as aggravated murder.

MarthasHarbour Fri 10-May-13 07:01:28

I like your thinking niceguy DH just said he would be in solitary confinement for years when on death row anyway. Which is a start!

niceguy2 Thu 09-May-13 23:41:59

With regards to the brothers, it does sound like they knew nothing about it. Apparently the son said that there were rooms noone was allowed in and was always padlocked.

Plus all police need to do is ask the girls if they ever saw the brothers. If the answer is yes then they're screwed. Given they've been released, I can only guess they never saw each other.

BBC News is now reporting Ariel may be executed which personally i think is too good for him. I'd like to see him either locked away in a super max in solitary for the rest of his days like he has done to the girls or fed to general population for a bit and see how long he lasts.

Booyhoo Thu 09-May-13 20:06:40

Yes mine too martha. Ive had to switch the news channel off as it was really upsetting me. ( feel awful saying that when those women had to go through it)

MarthasHarbour Thu 09-May-13 20:04:39

yes booyhoo that is the way i was thinking (about the control) he was already asserting control by saying he would kill her (Michelle i think) if the baby died. Fucking monster angry

i did hear that the brothers arrest was a knee jerk reaction, in all the drama and panic of the escape etc.

this is STILL playing on my mind - the whole thing. sad

phantomnamechanger Thu 09-May-13 18:56:25

to be fair, I dont think we can take the stories some of the neighbours are coming out with as gospel.
remember all the cases where someone has been wrongly arrested, but in the meantime, all sorts of rumours and gossip about them have spread like wild fire - anything from strange noises, comings and goings,acting suspicioulsy, looking dodgy, IYKWIM! Reporters are out and about looking for comment - some people just love the cameras and will say anything at all to get their 5 minutes of fame (and the hopes of a paid interview?)

TheSmallPrint Thu 09-May-13 18:05:43

Ah I see, thanks CheefulYank. Is it different here?

CheerfulYank Thu 09-May-13 17:48:46

3 counts of rape means three women, not
three times.

Booyhoo Thu 09-May-13 15:53:36

no. i dont really know why they were arrested. knee jerk reaction? wanting to cover all possibilities? didn't want to risk anyone involved getting away? not sure. maybe he was with teh brothers when arrested?

LibertineLover Thu 09-May-13 15:50:14

did the brothers live there?

Booyhoo Thu 09-May-13 14:48:30

it says the brothers were completely unconnected and unaware of the girls.

i also wondered about his 'common-law' wife that left in 2005 after he badly assaulted her. i'm guessing she lived with him in that house? i wonder if she had any suspicions? or maybe the lived at her house and he just 'visited' (shudder) his own house.

TheSmallPrint Thu 09-May-13 14:33:53

I wondered why he has been charged with only 3 cases of rape when there is evidence of multiple miscarriages (according to BBC today anyway). And how are the brothers not being charged, surely they must have been aware of the situation?? hmm

Booyhoo Thu 09-May-13 14:29:46

good not ggo

Booyhoo Thu 09-May-13 14:29:14

ggo point martha. with a baby it meant he could threaten to hurt it if they refused to do what he said or fought him or tried to ecape etc. sad

also noticed that it said the girl was wearing a nappy when she came out. i wonder if that was a delayed development thing because of captivity or what? maybe lack of access to a toilet as regularly as young dcs need it. adults can hold it if they are being denied access but dcs cant so maybe nappies were easier for her.

MarthasHarbour Thu 09-May-13 14:15:51

it was probably a control thing IYKWIM sad

CheerfulYank Thu 09-May-13 12:58:37

I was wondering the same...maybe faced with it as a baby rather than a pregnancy he couldn't? Who knows what he was thinking, ever.

Booyhoo Thu 09-May-13 12:51:33

i wonder why he wanted to keep that baby alive when he had made sure the other pregnancies didn't continue? i'm wondering if it was because it was a girl sad or maybe he knew it would be too difficult to get rid of the remains if she died.

CheerfulYank Thu 09-May-13 12:37:00

Here it talks more about the baby's birth.

Booyhoo Thu 09-May-13 11:02:47

there is more and more emerging that the police had been informed several times of women being seen at the house asking for help, "pounding" on the door, holding a baby, a girl in the attic window, the women seen naked in the back yard in chains! surely even 1 report was enough to keep knocking the door til he answered rather than just leave it because he didn't!

Booyhoo Thu 09-May-13 11:00:10

i dont think so libertine. just that there were more pregnancies. they haven't said whether those pregnancies ended in miscarriage or went full term. although i think i saw somewhere that there was a baby that died aged a few days old from respiratory problems but i can find where i saw it so dont take it as fact. i'll try and find where they mentioned it.

Booyhoo Thu 09-May-13 10:57:50


LibertineLover Thu 09-May-13 10:57:10

Have they confirmed there were more babies that died?

He will definitely get life, they don't mess about over there, and I think they know they've fucked up a few times on this one, so will throw the book at him.

Won't turn the clock back for those poor women though sad

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