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'Bring them all back to Portugal’- Robert Murat on the Mccanns,in the Sunday Express

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kweggie Sun 05-May-13 19:42:08

Robert Murat,(who was originally made an arguido by the Portuguese police as were Kate and Gerry McCann), has appealed to Scotland Yard to get the 'Tapas Nine' back to Portugal to stage a reconstruction of the 48 hours leading to the disappearance of Madeleine Mccann in 2007.

As Scotland Yard have so far spent an estimated 4.5 million of public money reviewing this case, is there any justifiable reason for the parents and their friends to refuse this?

fromparistoberlin Wed 08-May-13 14:08:14


my heart goes out to you, may they rest in peace

Portofino Tue 07-May-13 21:28:47

But with regards to the op, I don't give a shit about Robert Murat and his "opinions" and reiterate my view that a reconstruction is worthless now.

Turniphead1 Tue 07-May-13 21:09:51

My only comment on the McCanns being quick to legal recourse is that I don't blame them. The amount of vitriolic appalling stuff they have had to put up with over the past 6 years - on top of the agony of having lost their eldest child makes me despair of humanity.

Like other posters said - I bet their hearts lept at news from Oakland. I feel irrationally a little sad that this is the first year I didn't remember the anniversary ( it's on a close friends birthday - and my daughter was a few months older than Madeleine at the time and had similar hair, to the extent that people often double-checked her).

Booyhoo Tue 07-May-13 20:54:25

"should be fear that you will inadvertently show some sort of guilt."

umm, i'm not rooney so i cant be 100% sure but i dont think taht was at all what she was implying!

MissHilly Tue 07-May-13 20:45:06

Surely the police would not ask them to do a reconstruction based on what they remember today but instead it would be based on the information given to them by the witnesses in their statements from 2007?

Floggingmolly Tue 07-May-13 20:45:01

Suppose so, Rooney, just seems bizarre that the primary thought in your head when your child has supposedly been abducted, should be fear that you will inadvertently show some sort of guilt.

RooneyMara Tue 07-May-13 20:40:43

FloggingMolly I think that they were still officially 'arguidos' at the time and going by the stuff in my link further down, they were probably afraid of being detained again by the PJ.

They are no longer arguidos so maybe that makes it safer for them but I agree that it would be very hard to remember exactly what happened that night after all this time.

edam Tue 07-May-13 20:36:08

MrsSalvo - your claim that threads are pulled rather peremptorily by HQ is unfair and untrue. HQ pulls posts that conflict with the talk guidelines or may be defamatory or otherwise conflict with the law in some way. Those guidelines are easy to find - at the top of the page under 'Talk'. It's not that hard to write reasonable posts.

If you want to pour scorn on anyone involved and indulge yourself in pointing the finger, feel free to do it elsewhere. And check your bank account. Being sued can be an expensive business.

kweggie Tue 07-May-13 20:32:43

Thanks Mrs Salvo, yes I'm fairly new and contrary to what another poster wrote, this is only the second thread I've started on the Madeleine Mccann case . The last thread I started was about the horrific death of an autistic boy who was set on fire and the perpetrator got 3 and a half years-I contacted my Mp and the Justice minister over that.....As a parent I find these things upsetting and I think it is right to have a questioning approach to Life.
And it seems to me this sad story IS constantly in the news:sightings,book signings, marathons and runs, Leveson, Hacked Off, etc etc and the story on Sunday -so I don't know whereon earth the poster who said it wasn't in the news has been living for the last six years........

Guess some people would rather be rude first and think later.....

Corygal Tue 07-May-13 20:20:33

I can't help wondering if the McCanns would feel easier if they grieved. Having said that, they're probably looking at the pix of the 3 women rescued after 10 years and their hearts are leaping.

I do feel for them, but it's one of those classic cases that prove the rest of us should avoid the news or face being pointlessly depressed. Where is the value in that for anybody.

Floggingmolly Tue 07-May-13 20:10:31

On what basis did they refuse to return when the Portuguese police requested it the first time? Very strange.

MissHilly Tue 07-May-13 20:04:37

Not only can reconstructions jog the memory but they can also prove or disprove the sequence of events.
Interesting Wiki page on the purpose of crime reconstructions.

MrsSalvoMontalbano Tue 07-May-13 19:57:06

Portofino - agree - too long ago, no point. Who can remember what they were doing several years ago? I remember first hearing on MN that a DC has disappeared on a beach in Portugal. We were heading that day to a wedding in Bristol. I remember a few key things about that wedding, ( like the fact that I left the DC trousers at home, so we needed to make a lightning dash to a supermarket to buy new ones...) but could no way do a reconstruction of that day if it were demanded now.

MissAnnersley Tue 07-May-13 19:52:44

I presume that the people required for the reconstruction will have made statements though?

Wouldn't a reconstruction be put together by them and then any gaps filled in by their police statements?

I'm sure I've seen reconstructions of older cases than this one.

MissHilly Tue 07-May-13 19:52:39

I think though, they would probably base the reconstruction on the statements given to the police at the time rather than asking everyone to recall their movements again from that night.

Portofino Tue 07-May-13 19:51:19

They had a timeline/made detailed statements at the time. Why should anyone remember MORE now?

Portofino Tue 07-May-13 19:49:27

A reconstruction after this amount of time is worthless. I can remember my holiday from 6 years ago to a degree of detail, but not times of who did what, what people looked like, random strangers I might have walked past....

MrsSalvoMontalbano Tue 07-May-13 19:46:43

kewggie, not sure if you are new to MN, but usually threads on this subjects are pulled rather peremptorily by HQ, which is probably why you are only getting responses from the pro-McCanns. Those of a more sceptical disposition will have been previously threatened with a ban from MNHQ for posting, as Noddy alluded to further down the thread. So please don't be disappointed by a lack of support for your position.

kweggie Tue 07-May-13 19:19:22

I'm still trying to work out what is 'distasteful' to some of you about discussing a front page news story from Sunday? Very knee-jerk -some of you feel free to speculate and rudely, about me and my motives, but hypocritically I am disdained for wondering whether a reconstruction that was apparently indefinitely postponed by the parents and friends might actually bring a speedier resolution to an investigation that is costing millions of public money.
Thank you Rooney Mara for the interesting link, btw.

kweggie Tue 07-May-13 19:04:14

I don't think there is a deadline.

MissHilly Tue 07-May-13 17:43:08

When is the Scotland Yard reviewed due to be wrapped up or is it just ongoing?

MrsSalvoMontalbano Tue 07-May-13 17:30:42

I don't suppose Portugal wants that lot back - they caused enough trouble last time.

noddyholder Tue 07-May-13 17:12:17

A shovel?

pumpkinsweetie Tue 07-May-13 17:09:41

Hides thread, not a bad word about anyone can be said as usual.....

Booyhoo Tue 07-May-13 16:52:26

keep going. do you want a shovel?

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