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Domestic violence victim may lose home after panic room is classed as spare bedroom.

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Darkesteyes Sat 04-May-13 23:39:09

How bloody low are this Gov. going to sink? What on earth do they expect this woman to do FFS.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 Sun 05-May-13 11:47:16

I think a lot of people are suckered in by the media and made to feel bitter and jealous of a mythical on benefits.

Cloverer Sun 05-May-13 11:48:09

Yes, I'm sure many of the people I work with who have to live in specially adapted houses with lifts, wet rooms, storage for medical equipment and wheelchairs etc are really, really grateful.

Viviennemary Sun 05-May-13 11:50:30

And I wasn't meaning people with disabled children. Just to clarify.

burberryqueen Sun 05-May-13 11:52:00

look fanjo if someone is disabled or caring for a disabled child or a tiny baby then fine, rely on benefits. Those will however be higher than the £55 you quote, which is I believe the rate for a single person or someone with a partner who helps support them. All you have to do is find SIXTEEN hours a week work and you are entitled to a whole raft of support such as WFTC, CTC,HB etc. And those 16 hours can even be self employed in a micro business. I have friends that do it with caring, cleaning, reflexology and gardening, among other things. All people do is complain when they have above all, a secure tenancy that they have to make a tiny contribution towards.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 Sun 05-May-13 11:52:03

Just those mythical feckless people with giant tellies.

Cloverer Sun 05-May-13 11:52:58

So just the people who have a spare room but aren't disabled, living in an adapted house or caring for disabled children should be affected by this?

fanjoforthemammaries7850 Sun 05-May-13 11:53:12

So everyone on benefits should invent some trumped up job just so they get even more benefits?

burberryqueen Sun 05-May-13 11:55:02

actually cloverer perhaps people who 'have to' live in specially adapted houses probably are grateful that their homes have been adapted at no cost to themselves.

Viviennemary Sun 05-May-13 11:55:21

I'm sure a lot of cleaners and gardeners wouldn't be happy about their jobs being called trumped up.

burberryqueen Sun 05-May-13 11:56:25

these jobs are not 'trumped up' they are about at least making some effort to support yourself instead of crying that the government does not give enough. no wonder people from other countries laugh at us.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 Sun 05-May-13 11:57:24

You know what I mean..the jobs are created by them so that they can work 16 hours a week and get more benefits.

Which is fair enough but how can you promote that and bash other benefit claimants.


Maybe the people trumping up the 16 hours should really work full time and claim no benefits..if you are of this benefit bashing persuasion.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 Sun 05-May-13 11:58:14

Yes..make some effort..but stick to 16 to claim tax credits?

At least be consistent if you are going to come over all right wing and benefit bashing

Cloverer Sun 05-May-13 11:59:26

burberry - except now it is at cost to themselves, isn't it? Or is the tax payer going to move 100,000 people into smaller properties and specially adapt the new houses too?

660,000 people are being affected by the bedroom tax, of them 420,000 are disabled or caring for disabled children.

There aren't enough smaller properties for people to move to - this policy is not going to be freeing up bigger houses.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 Sun 05-May-13 11:59:39

I dont grudge anyone any support.

But its a bit rich to bash the unemployed while singing the praises of your mates who work the system by doing a minimum amount of work.'s been fun but real life beckons.

CoalDustWoman Sun 05-May-13 11:59:50

Why isn't the ex locked up?

The solution is arse backwards.

burberryqueen Sun 05-May-13 12:01:02

just becasue i have suggested taht people could pay a little living cost themselves does not make me a 'benefit basher' and i have never mentioned giant screen TVs or a luxury lifestyle - i know well that is twollocks - I just think this whole mentality needs to change a bit. I wish to God I could manage without government handouts, sadly the last Labour government made damn sure that nobody could. It is all about control really.

burberryqueen Sun 05-May-13 12:03:03

and show me where i have 'bashed the unemployed'? funny how that whole vocab of 'bashing' and 'luxury lifestyles' and 'giant tvs' swings into action - it is like a knee jerk reaction to anyone going against the grain.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 Sun 05-May-13 12:05:12

No..its a reaction to your comment that they should "just get a job"

burberryqueen Sun 05-May-13 12:09:43

in many cases, yes, there is no excuse. I do not include disabled or disabled carers in this, as I stated before.

Xenia Sun 05-May-13 12:10:06

Why can't she sleep in the panic room and the council move am other and baby into the spare room which is freed up? This is social housing. It does not have to be luxurious.

Viviennemary Sun 05-May-13 12:12:04

I just don't believe for a moment that she lives on £55 a week. I wonder what her real income is.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 Sun 05-May-13 12:14:32

I dont object to your comments because I have a disabled child..I am lucky enough to be working, btw.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 Sun 05-May-13 12:15:50

Why not just chuck em in a workhouse while you're at it Xenia.

CoalDustWoman Sun 05-May-13 12:17:41

Why isn't the ex locked up and then she won't need the panic room? WTF are the police and cps playing at?

Viviennemary Sun 05-May-13 12:26:36

That would just be too sensible a solution CoaldustWoman.

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