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5 year old kills his sister with his birthday gun in US

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Slainte Wed 01-May-13 20:10:38

Title says it all, here's the link.

When will people fucking learn? angry

StealthOfficialCrispTester Wed 01-May-13 23:08:45

I assume it means survival of the fittest/removal of the gene pool of people who aren't worthy.
Apologies if this is not the case but I have no idea how else to take it.

AThingInYourLife Wed 01-May-13 23:13:42

"darwin in action"


Are you trying to say that this little girl died because she was less biologically "fit" than others?!

Fucking hell.

whitewineintherain Wed 01-May-13 23:15:09

If you follow the link in that article to crickett firearms there's pictures of children with guns including a baby sitting with a gun on it's lap.
I'm shock that people let children near real guns let alone use them.

Pan Wed 01-May-13 23:16:52

survival of the fittest wasn't a Darwin dictum fwiw, and even if it was are we saying that the girl just wasn't one of the fittest? merci what did you mean?

WTFisABooyhooISBooyhoo Wed 01-May-13 23:17:42


what an odd thing to say wrt this horrible incident. i wonder was it posted on the wrong thread? i hope it was.

StealthOfficialCrispTester Wed 01-May-13 23:18:10

Pan even if not striclyyn true I assume the link is to the Darwin awards

Cheddars Wed 01-May-13 23:19:55

I think Merci is referring to the stupidity of the parents buying their child a gun.

BasilBabyEater Wed 01-May-13 23:20:24

If it were any other kind of "accident", the parents would immediately be arrested for negligence, but there's no mention of that here.

And yet if you drink a glass of wine while pregnant you can be arrested in some states.

The power of the gun-lobby eh.

nancy75 Wed 01-May-13 23:20:44

I thought she meant the Darwin awards, where someone causes their own death due to something ridiculous they ave done? Hardly applies in this case

Slainte Wed 01-May-13 23:21:07

I agree with ReallyTired I think the parents should be tried for manslaughter. It wasn't a "crazy accident", they were grossly negligent.

Pan Wed 01-May-13 23:23:56

IF the manslaughter thing was at all a go-er it surely would have been live by now, not just seen as an accident. The Kentucky laws on gun care seem to by-pass this scenario. Where on earth are the parents' heads now?

mercibucket Wed 01-May-13 23:25:29

sorry, it made me think of the darwin awards, stupid parents do incredibly stupid thing, result is their offspring die, not meant in a funny or sarcastic way at all, hence sad face, genuinely awful that children die thro the stupidity of their parents

ReallyTired Wed 01-May-13 23:26:09

I suppose the parents have been punished enough for their total and utter stupidity. It will not bring back their daughter to jail them and deprive the five year old of his parents.

I would like the parents to be given a suspended jail sentence and forbidden from ever owning a gun. I don't think that will happen some how as they are in the US.

ChangeNameToday Wed 01-May-13 23:28:12

I am in the US at the moment. Last week I saw a boy, looked about 8/9, wearing a t-shirt that had "Guns, God & Country" printed on it. Yes, in that order.

WTFisABooyhooISBooyhoo Wed 01-May-13 23:30:06

yes really tired. i think lifetime ban from owning a gun for them. i dont think prison term would serve any purpose here. i think the little boy very much needs his parents and will for a very long time after to come to terms with this.

WTFisABooyhooISBooyhoo Wed 01-May-13 23:32:20

well, actually, thinking about this. the boy needs people who will get him through this and support his emotional recovery. if his parents are in any way putting blame on hin then no, they aren't the right people to be bringimg him through it. however i havent read or heard anything about what they are saying so i dont know if they are accepting full responsibility or not.

Pan Wed 01-May-13 23:32:57

yes too ReallyTired good post, there is a balance, even in this mayhem.

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Wed 01-May-13 23:42:10

Oh believe it. Plenty of American parents buy their children; babies even, guns...

My Dad who is an ardent (champagne) socialist and liberal has a gun-toting deep Southerner pen-friend who he's known for 50 years. He bought his children AND grandchildren (the girl and the boy) guns before they could even hold them. He even said he'd been remiss - joking, because he knows how to wind my Dad up - not buying my kids guns.

Children owning guns is so totally everyday, common-place, blasé, and un-pass-remarkable in certain parts of the US that this really will just be seen as a sad accident, and 'one of those things'. Nothing will change.

BewitchedBotheredandBewildered Wed 01-May-13 23:52:36

I actually feel sick hearing this.

How the hell do you fight it?

ArabellaBeaumaris Wed 01-May-13 23:56:11

I'm gobsmacked. Don't you need a license for a fun AT ALL? No age restrictions whatsoever?

nancy75 Wed 01-May-13 23:56:53

Don that is interesting and shocking at the same time. Why do they buy guns for tiny kids? I can't imagine the thought process behind giving a gun to a child

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Thu 02-May-13 00:11:51

I don't know, I just can't relate to it.

My Dad's friend hunts, and it's a big part of his social life. So this is why he has guns. Fair enough.

Buying the children - well, let's be honest; babies - guns just seems to be a rite of passage thing. They are then toting them as soon as they can walk. They are utterly part of the fabric of their lives, that they seemingly cannot and will not relate to people (especially outsiders who don't understand their way of life) who have an inherent problem with guns.

The whole 'guns don't kill people - people kill people' thing. Yes, inevitably people with guns. <eye roll>

My Dad waited to see if his friend would raise the Connecticut shooting with him (they moved from letters to email in the last few years). He eventually did, but to say that Obama was maliciously using the killing of innocent children to go back on Americans' basic right to own arms. sad He was only semi-joking.

ToomuchIsBackOnBootcamp Thu 02-May-13 00:14:22

The thought process must be "get them indoctrinated early so they keep voting to keep guns" surely?

HerRoyalNotness Thu 02-May-13 00:56:15

I worry about this so much, we may have to move to the states soon. I can't think how I'd be able to ask if people keep guns in the house before I'd let my DC over to play.

What utterly foolish people.

masterchef1 Thu 02-May-13 01:02:51

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