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WildThongIWannaKnowForSure Mon 15-Apr-13 20:27:37

worley Tue 16-Apr-13 08:02:17

pint of milk.. you must live very close to me. the sad thing is that there were straight away reports Of what was happening on Facebook before it was even reported on the news. and sadly people's face books will be looked at by papers and information gained from them just as they did with the lad who crashed his car into the house a few weeks ago.

she must have been just so devastated and distraught and I think only people that have been that low know how it can seem the only way to stop the pain. that's assuming that it was her that did it of course.

HeySoulSister Tue 16-Apr-13 08:15:33


IYoniWentInForAPintOfMilk Tue 16-Apr-13 08:22:38

you are right Worley, this kind of thing really puts me off facebook too, people all want to know what's going on and there is so much speculation. Reading the Daily Mail thing this morning actually made me feel sick. people are suffering and grieving and people on facebook just want to gossip. So sad.

ObiWankenYoni Tue 16-Apr-13 08:36:55

RIP little babies

May justice be done

I have a feeling this may not be as straightforward as it looks.

worley Tue 16-Apr-13 09:27:08

it appears to be very complicated and she was in a horrible situation. but a situation that a lot of other people on this site have been in but not resorted to what she may have done. sadly they're not even reporting her name correctly. that is a big cock up in itself.
I'm avoiding FB today. people are on a witch hunt already sad

NellysKnickers Tue 16-Apr-13 13:49:14

So so sad. Incredibly heartbreaking, poor little children. Feel for their mum too, whatever must she have been thinking, its so sad she had no-one to turn to. Life can be cruel.

DreamsTurnToGoldDust Tue 16-Apr-13 13:59:44

Incrediably sad for her and the children, I also feel very sad for the father.

phantomnamechanger Tue 16-Apr-13 17:32:23

So bloody awful. Whatever the ins and outs of her circumstances, just tragic sad

feel so sorry for those having to deal with this too - imagine those poor police officers going home and looking in on their own sleeping DCs.

I also wonder, every time something like this happens, was the person an MNer. Could anyone in her RL or on here, have been there for her or encouraged her to get the help she obviously needed?.

Just so sad.

everlong Tue 16-Apr-13 20:27:01

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DesperatelySeekingSedatives Tue 16-Apr-13 20:57:22

I think its not as simple as her being evil for doing this. I cant imagine feeling like I wanted to harm my kids even at my absolute worst. But I always had people I could go to when I needed to support/scream and shout it all out my system. Maybe she didnt feel she had anyone? The reports Ive seen suggest her partner and father to all the children had left her. She must have felt so alone. That kind of despair can make you do desperate things IME. I hope she and all her babies rest in peace.

Heartfelt sympathy to everyone, all of her family and his. Most of all to the poor dad though who has just lost all of his children in one go. The pain must be unbearable.

ThatVikRinA22 Tue 16-Apr-13 21:04:49

i feel for the childrens father and those left behind.

people split up all the time. I cant imagine that wanting to make me want to murder my own children.

its very sad.

WildThongIWannaKnowForSure Tue 16-Apr-13 22:37:37

And she was only just 21, very young to have 4 children.
Devastating, how bad must she have felt.

WildThongIWannaKnowForSure Tue 16-Apr-13 22:38:16

must have been feeling

worley Wed 17-Apr-13 07:06:44

it appears the police had been called to her home the night before this happened sad after a dispute with her ex after she had reportedly stabbed him. but the police report that due to the nature of domestic incidents as she wouldn't allow them into the property they couldn't gain access at this point. they spoke to her via the intercom once her partner had left.
you can't help but wonder if she had let them in to talk to her if things may have been different sad

HeySoulSister Wed 17-Apr-13 13:05:29

She was wielding a knife ( with children in her care) and had assaulted someone.... Police couldn't gain entry so just left it?!

Can't believe that

MissyMooandherBeaverofSteel Wed 17-Apr-13 13:14:56

She didn't stab anyone.

link there was a stabbing and they went to see if she had any information about it.

Skybore Wed 17-Apr-13 13:17:06

"Poor woman being left for someone else when she had 3 littlies and another on the way!"

Have to say that's not the first thought I had when I read this terrible story. I felt the same way I feel when men do something terrible to ex partner and kids with that "if I can't have you no-one will" attitude.

In those cases I don't immediately think Poor bloke, he must've been driven mad by it all, I tend to think What a bastard.

Same here, she stabs him, murders her own kids, then tops herself. Brutal yes, but also What a bastard, rather than What a shame.

worley Wed 17-Apr-13 14:45:19

the dad has changed his story about being stabbed.. firstly he said it was by a man in another part of town.. now he says she did it. if she did why did he go and leave his children with her? they're still unable to establish cause of death for the poor children. sad

Alibabaandthe40nappies Wed 17-Apr-13 15:40:09

There is definitely something that is not as it seems. Those poor children.

ObiWankenYoni Wed 17-Apr-13 16:37:31

I'm afraid the dad is giving me the same feeling as the derby deaths dad.

I hate to say it, but I can't help it. Others have said the same.

Something is just not sitting right.

Skybore Wed 17-Apr-13 16:41:43

derby deaths, as in Philpots? Hadn't thought so but you may be right. Too soon to say I guess and I already said what my first instinctive thoughts were.

Vagndidit Wed 17-Apr-13 16:49:47

This story is absolutely heartbreaking. Those poor, poor children. I've been teary everytime I've seen the story mentioned on the news.
Our local Bbc service pissed me off, however, when they shoved the camera in the Dad's face on Mon night asking how he felt about the situation. Htf do you think he feels?angry

ObiWankenYoni Wed 17-Apr-13 16:49:53


As I said. Something just isn't right.

Vagndidit Wed 17-Apr-13 16:52:10

I will add that there's also a lot of details about the story that aren't adding up...which just adds to the sadness of the situation. I hate how the Philpott case has made us all a bit more suspicious of fathers.

HeySoulSister Wed 17-Apr-13 16:53:33

why isnt something right? its not that hard to believe a woman can do this is it? plenty of cases over recent times....

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