Philpott Case

[SameDifference]

Listening to the Philpott case on the news. What a crazy life. Poor kids. And poor women.

[GetOrf]

God knows if we can talk about this or not - I think this thread may up deleted mightn't it?

But I agree. It is utterly awful reading about what is being discussed at the trial.

[meditrina]

It'll only be at risk if deletion if people start speculating beyond what has been stated in open Court, especially if such speculation is about guilt/innocence.

The family set up as described in court today was certainly unusual (to put it mildly).

[TheCrackFox]

He strikes me as a deeply unpleasant person.

[DreamsTurnToGoldDust]

Not sure if we should be I think TheCrackFox sums it up.

[GetOrf]

Yesterday's disclosure in court re what the police recorded on their surveillance was very disturbing. I don't want to repeat it here as I don't want to be thought prurient but it all seems so bloody horrible.

[TheCrackFox]

Completely agree GetOrf, the police surveillance was especially grim and I found it very upsetting.

[lljkk]

Would it be out of bounds if I speculated on what in the world about the man made him be so attractive to those women? I'll never understand what it is about some men, how they could ever pull anyone. The details that came out in court about their lifestyles, how did they justify it all to themselves at the time?

[GetOrf]

I don't know. I assume that those women were very vulnerable (as well as incredibly young and influential). Perhaps they viewed that element of control as someone who loved and cared for them.

[Auntmaud]

As Michael Stipe once said, anyone can get a shag if they lower their standards enough.

[DreamsTurnToGoldDust]

Some people just want to be loved though, I think its important to remember that. I dont think its about lowering your standard Aunt, some people will take love from anyone. (I dont mean that in a horrid way at all, I mean circumstances or background can influence who and how you accept love if that makes sense)

[SamSmalaidh]

The mistress was only 17 I think when she moved in with him. I suspect young and very vulnerable - I bet she didn't have a happy childhood.

[Auntmaud]

The whole situation is sad and depressing.
And the generosity of the welfare state enabled them to have so many children. Nice.

[Geordieminx]

Can someone link?

[Geordieminx]

Were the poor children that died the wife's or the mistresses?

[Chubfuddler]

His wife's. the mistress and her children fled by pretending to go out swimming.

There are dysfunctional families and then there's this kind of category of family. Words actually fail me.

[Auntmaud]

They weren't a family. Please don't use that phrase to describe these hideous people.

[ratbagcatbag]

The wife's children died, the mistress had moved out.

[SamSmalaidh]

The wife's. The prosecution is alleging that after the girlfriend left taking her 5 children, Philpott and the wife tried to frame her for setting fire to the house, so they would get custody of her kids. They didn't intend for the 6 children to die, they were supposed to rescue them but allegedy set too big a fire. Have I put enough allegedlies in that?

[Chubfuddler]

I think so Sam. Allegedly.

[CarnivorousPanda]

Poor children, having to live in this awful environment.

[lljkk]

I think what SamSmal said is what the prosecution allege, it's on public record.

[JakeBullet]

Auntmaud you are discussing women who were vulnerable and by the sound sounds of things very controlled by an abusive man, and at least one innocent party has lost children.....a little humanity please and less of the "thick as pig shit" comments.[h,m]

Oh and life on benefits is not THAT great....would YOU have swapped lives with them? Or perhaps me....I am on benefits too....it isn't generous....it is enough to live on and that's all.