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Exposure, newsnight ect Part 3

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AnyaKnowIt Thu 06-Dec-12 12:57:29

Other thread getting full

staverton Fri 15-Feb-13 09:18:14

This is definitely worth reading as are his last 4-5 blog entries.

I really think things are moving now and the truth will out.

NicholasTeakozy Fri 15-Feb-13 17:33:33

That's a very interesting read. Thanks for linking it.

Lockedout434 Sun 17-Feb-13 06:46:47

Lockedout434 Sun 17-Feb-13 06:49:09

Same thing really about the elm guest house

Lockedout434 Sun 17-Feb-13 06:59:43

The mirror is hopefully good news

swallowedAfly Sun 17-Feb-13 07:20:16

i hate this 'jimmy groomed a nation' business - that is rubbish - the authorities knew and did nothing we're finding out time and time again. that's not a nation being groomed that's a corrupt system not a groomed nation. these latest reports seem to say that covering it up was routine for police whenever a ring turned out to have high profile figures.

i want to know who pulled that operation and have them prosecuted for their part in the abuse and deaths of children who died subsequently as a result of their allowing it to continue.

if a teacher fails to report a child's claim that they have been abused they can be sacked - their contract and terms of employment say that they must ensure child protection by passing on all info to the child protection officer who then has their own statutory obligations. i can't help but think it is a million times worse for the police and judiciary to not follow up on known child abuse and abusers. they should be prosecuted and a very clear sign given that covering up this stuff, not persuing people who are a danger to children, will be treated as a criminal offence.

swallowedAfly Sun 17-Feb-13 07:34:05

sorry that was a bit soap box'esque and preaching to the choir and all that but god this stuff makes you sick.

i am utterly fed up of all this immunity for the big boys - fraudulent expenses claims, back handers from big business, raping children and women - the constant reminder of corruption and criminality that the rest of us would be in prison for being gotten away with is sickening. these are people who have the power to destroy our society with their 'policies' and agendas and who have the nerve to pump out false moral rhetorics against the poor, the disabled, pensioners who dare to still live in the same house they've been in for fifty years despite having a spare bedroom the size of a postage stamp, etc etc.

i just feel so utterly turned off. which group of perverts and criminals shall we vote for? which group of mega rich, in bed with big business, power mad men shall we hand the reigns to? when reporting a rape or the abuse of our child which police officer should we talk to - hopefully we'll get a decent one but we might get the one who facilitates child porn rings or abuses his power to force vulnerable women to have sex with him.

so much power in the wrong hands.

swallowedAfly Sun 17-Feb-13 07:38:10

and at a very small, base, naive level there is the disgust and horror that such nasty people exist. it's bad enough to know that there are men who actually enjoy torturing and raping children and treat it like a social club even before you look at how much power some of these guys have and how weak, power swayed people turn the other way.

we really, really, really need to deal with our beholdeness to power and celebrity and wealth. the law has to reach all levels of society or what's the point in having law? just to keep the proles in check? stop them nicking our silverware?

ok. climbing down now. sorry.

CFSKate Sun 17-Feb-13 13:03:49

I saw something somewhere that apparently Jilly Cooper wrote something about the Elm Guest House in one of her books??! Does anyone have the book to check this?

Lockedout434 Sun 17-Feb-13 21:18:05

A very good article with jilly extract. Keith Vaz was about in the area at the time. He apparently has no memory of anything dodgy.

Lockedout434 Sun 17-Feb-13 21:20:12

Angels rush in

Is the book by the way.

babyboomersrock Mon 18-Feb-13 01:27:13

"we really, really, really need to deal with our beholdeness to power and celebrity and wealth. the law has to reach all levels of society or what's the point in having law? just to keep the proles in check? stop them nicking our silverware?

ok. climbing down now. sorry"

Don't be sorry. You're right. As long as we behave like scared, impotent little underlings, nothing will change.

Lockedout434 Mon 18-Feb-13 19:28:05

I think as its getting closer to the top that's why people are calling for privacy before trial. What the jimmy saville thing has shown is there are more people prepared to come forward when they know they are not alone, therefore they are more likely to be believed if you can show a person to have a modis operendi. That's why the voices on high are asking for secrecy before trial. Christ even if you have a few victims its still it would be hard to convict, you still have to go through a barrage of being called a fantasist and a liar.
All those people saying it destroys innocent men's lives well it can kill the victims. They should be given every chance to prove they were raped as the fact is if a perpetrator gets off with assault or any other such lesser charge. There is a high probability that they will attack some other poor child

Lockedout434 Mon 18-Feb-13 19:30:00

Swallowed vent away it's cathartic it gives new energy.

Lockedout434 Wed 20-Feb-13 12:43:35

So when he was appointed 2 teachers resigned but they still went ahead.
Fuckers must have known but ignored fucking enablers.

I bet they are wringing their hands in pity.

Malcolm Layfield has resigned from his job at the Royal Northern College of Music (RNCM) after admitting having sex with teenage pupils at Chetham’s School of Music.

Professor Layfield, an acclaimed violinist and head of the college’s school of strings, had admitted to having relationships with female pupils while a teacher at Chetham’s during the 80s and 90s – but insisted all were aged over 16.

The musician stood down from the RNCM’s board of governors and went on sick leave last week – after reports of his conduct featured in a high-profile court case.

Last night, the college and Professor Layfield released a second, joint statement announcing his departure as a member of staff.

The statement said: “Professor Malcolm Layfield has left his post as Head of School of Strings at the Royal Northern College of Music, his position at the college having become untenable.”

Two teachers at the RNCM resigned in protest in 2002 when it was announced he would be taking up a post there as head of strings.

But the college pressed ahead with the appointment as none of the students involved had been under the age of consent.

Allegations about the musician’s conduct while a teacher at Chetham’s were aired again during the trial of former colleague Michael Brewer.

Brewer and his wife Hilary were found guilty of indecently assaulting Frances Andrade, starting when she was 14.

Ms Andrade committed suicide after giving evidence, but while in court had also named Professor Layfield and made allegations about his conduct involving a fellow Chetham's pupil.

Professor Layfield, who has played with top orchestras around the world, could not be contacted last night – but has previously denied any criminal behaviour.

In a statement as he stood down as an RNCM governor last week, he said no allegations of criminal behaviour were made.

He added: “I made it clear then as I do now that I deeply regret my behaviour.” Cunt

Lockedout434 Wed 20-Feb-13 12:44:41

Oh add another on to the list of
'We shouldn't name anyone, think of their reputation'

CFSKate Wed 20-Feb-13 14:09:22

Edwina Currie has apparently tweeted that there was a cover-up, but it's not clear to me exactly what she is referring to.

Lockedout434 Wed 20-Feb-13 15:05:35

Erm was it her involvement with jimmy savile at broadmoor?????
Elm house with a bit of luck

I keep getting snippets on five live about an investigation into west Yorkshire police and how the last interview in 2008 ( I think) with savile was handled. That hopefully will open up the Masonic links and the dodgy Scarborough Whitby goings on and cause a lot of dodgy coppers in Yorkshire to brick it.
It appears they are joining the dots ....., 20 years to late but COME ON

CFSKate Wed 20-Feb-13 15:26:40

I've now seen this on twitter which has collected her relevant tweets into something more readable. I don't know about the rest of it, but it should at least be possible to find the original tweets on her account, I assume.

swallowedAfly Wed 20-Feb-13 16:38:08

grim reading.

AnyaKnowIt Wed 20-Feb-13 18:58:52

Police inspector to be investigated over warning Jimmy Savile in 2009

Lockedout434 Wed 20-Feb-13 20:18:52

Danny Shaw
Damian Green on delays: burglary cases can take 6 months from offence to sentence; rape - almost 2 years

Lockedout434 Thu 21-Feb-13 19:41:06

From the guardian

The police watchdog has began examining the police's dealings with Jimmy Savile, as it promises to help expose "a catalogue of institutional failings" that left the TV star free to molest hundreds of people.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission said an investigation had begun into a police inspector from the West Yorkshire force who may have "acted on behalf" of Savile ahead of an interview by detectives from the Surrey force.

The IPCC is also asking a total of seven forces to examine their files to see if there are any concerns about the way their officers dealt with Savile and related matters.

The Guardian understands this is in part triggered by material passed to the IPCC by an inquiry already under way into police dealings with Savile. That inquiry is being conducted by Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary, and was ordered by the home secretary.

Savile attacked hundreds of people, including children, across several decades of sexual offending. Police say re-investigation has led them to record over 200 offences.

Lockedout434 Thu 21-Feb-13 19:48:44

I wonder what caused this death
A police special protection officer has been found shot dead at a house in London.
The 43 year old PC, from the Specialist Protection Command, was found at the address in Camden yesterday afternoon.
The unit covers protection duties for VIPs including the Prime Minister.

AnyaKnowIt Thu 21-Feb-13 21:48:20

Thats very hmm isn't it...

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