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bunchamunchycrunchycarrots Wed 28-Nov-12 22:14:28

previous thread & another one

So, the report will finally be made public tomorrow - wonder what the outcome will be? Will Cameron actually go with the recommendations or not?


tb Sat 01-Dec-12 18:03:50

Perhaps the problem is that Cameron comes from a PR background, so is likely to have friends in all the 'wrong' places. He was only able to become leader of the Tory party as they were looking for a candidate to stand up against slippery slimy Tone.

Otherwise, the Tories would have probably had David Davies as leader, and as a result a lot of things would probably have been very different.

claig Sat 01-Dec-12 20:12:55

'The second was that of Daily Mail editor Paul Dacre. He is the embodiment of Fleet Street bullying, using his newspaper to peddle his Little-England, curtain-twitching Alan Partridgesque view of the world, which manages to combine sanctimonious, pompous moralising and prurient, voyeuristic, judgmental obsession, like a Victorian father masturbating secretly in his bedroom. This is the side of the press Cameron has sided with.'

Oh dear, oh dear. It sounds like unfunny Coogan is out of touch with the British public who buy the Daily Mail in their millions.

When no one any longer watches Coogan's comedies and movies and when no one any longer asks for his opinion, the public will still be buying the Daily Mail in their millions, and its online version will still probably be the most visited internet newspaper site in the world.

claig Sat 01-Dec-12 20:20:18

'which manages to combine sanctimonious, pompous moralising'

I don't remember many green, environmental articles on biodiversity, global warming and climate catastrophe. Has he got the Daily Mail mixed up with a certain left-leaning paper?

claig Sat 01-Dec-12 20:22:32

Thank God we have a free press in the UK, where millions can choose to read the paper that Coogan dislikes. Long live freedom, long live the Daily Mail!

claig Sat 01-Dec-12 20:32:00

'peddle his Little-England, curtain-twitching Alan Partridgesque view of the world'

What pomposity Coogan has, to compare in any way the editor of the Daily Mail, a paper read by millions, to his own minor comic character, Alan Partridge, who was funny for all of 5 minutes, and thankfiully no longer often appears on our TV screens.

claig Sat 01-Dec-12 20:46:05

I would like to hear more from Tom Watson MP who was a hero and made great points about abuse of power, illegality and inappropriate influence on representatives of the people.

But luvvies who dislike a "Little England" view of the world will only make the public support the press.

claig Sat 01-Dec-12 21:01:54

I hope the Guardian, which some say is a serious paper, interviewed Tom Watson about this.

Guardian interviews with sanctimonious sleb luvvies who dislike the people's paper that outsells the Guardian by a wide margin may please progressives, but will not play well the people.

TheOriginalPan Sat 01-Dec-12 21:02:05

But buying a newspaper by the million doesn't make it a 'good thing' or beyond criticism or not-guilty of peddling racists, middle-England scare-mongering rubbish. In fact it lots of ways it;s too easy a target.

claig Sat 01-Dec-12 21:13:41

'But buying a newspaper by the million doesn't make it a 'good thing' or beyond criticism'

Of course it is not beyond criticism; it could do lot more to expose the climate catastrophe con.

'not-guilty of peddling racists'
This was the paper awarded Newspaper of the Year 2012 by the distinguished Society of Editors, in part due to its outstanding coverage of the Stephen Lawrence case.

'middle-England scare-mongering rubbish'
that is a matter of opinion. The Daily Mail reported on the leaked swine flu memo - some politicianns, pharmacological corporations and plutocrats may think that was middle England scaremongering, but millions of Mail readers were interested to read a story that had not been publicised.

'In fact it lots of ways it's too easy a target.'

It ia a target by a luvvie in the Guardian which is the wrong target, which insults the people, and which undermines the case of serious illegality perpetrated by the press.

claig Sat 01-Dec-12 21:20:37

' The Daily Mail reported on the leaked swine flu memo'

Have you forgotten that historic Sunday when the Mail released that story? Have you forgotten how it had to be mentioned on the Andrew Marr Show that Sunday? They couldn't ignore it, it was in the people's paper, sold to millions, it was only in the Mail on Sunday.

Long live freedom, long live Middle England, long live a free press, long live the Daily Mail!

TheOriginalPan Sat 01-Dec-12 21:22:03

Point of info - wasn't it the DM that messed up the prosecution of the Stephen Lawrence 5 by publicising their details, photographs and some of the evidence against them, pretty much at the start?

having said this, I'll cease this line - the DM shouldn't necessarily be singularly on trial here.

claig Sat 01-Dec-12 21:57:49

Our press is not free enough. They didn't publish photos that were shown in other papers in the world. They suppress stories that are printed in other papers in the world. There is no such thing as a truly free press, but let's not make it any less free than it already is.

Why not change libel laws and make a no win no fees legal system so that clever lawyers can challenge the press on behalf of the public who don't have the money to take the press on. Why not move to a freer system like in the USA.

Let's be careful not to let powerful, rich, possibly political backers use press illegality to further curtail freedom of teh public to know certain things. Let's not let some prominent celebrity luvvies who dsilike curtain-twitching Middle England views to create an atmosphere which might lead to stifling of a free press.

claig Sat 01-Dec-12 22:00:37

sorry, "Liitle England, curtain-twitching", not Middle England.

annehathaway Sun 02-Dec-12 22:26:44

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