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Newsnight Fri 2 Nov please watch v Important you know who is running the country

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MrsjREwing Fri 02-Nov-12 11:53:32

Tom Watkins tweeted a seniour politician will be outed tonight and Max Clifford said on Daybreak shocking news will be released by the BBC today.

MrsjREwing Fri 02-Nov-12 15:21:39

What has it got to do with anyone else what anyone else is interested in? Do comment on the interest levels of dog people, feminists and so on? If you don't like the subject don't fuel it by posting.

NigellasGuest Fri 02-Nov-12 15:24:27

I don't think it's a matter of having an obsession, or of hype. It's a matter of making more people aware of the unbelievable amount of corruption in the way this country is run sad

DreamsTurnToGoldDust Fri 02-Nov-12 15:32:08

MrsJR does not have an obsession, but what is happening at the moment is incrediably important and people have to right to discuss this. If Newsnight does `out` this politician tonight the repercussions will be enourmous.

LineRunner Fri 02-Nov-12 15:34:31

It would appear that there are lots of Houses to put in order, including but not confined to the BBC.

Pinot Fri 02-Nov-12 15:37:23

Actually, I think it's the media focusing on the BBC and it's a massively positive step that that is stopping.

It goes much further/deeper/darker than the Beeb.

This news is a good thing, IMO.

MrsChristmasVamos Fri 02-Nov-12 15:38:52

I agree, Nigella. The more we hear, the worse it gets.

People think Hillsborough was bad ? Now this ? I don't think we have even scratched the surface yet. sad

QuickLookBusy Fri 02-Nov-12 15:53:24

Agree with Pinot. All this concentration on the BBC by the media is detracting from the fact there are other institutions which are also guilty.

Really glad Newsnight are going to name other people. Hope they don't stop with just this one.

claig Fri 02-Nov-12 15:54:13

'Mrsj - you seem to have a bit of an obsession with this.'

That's probably what was said to victims and people trying to expose the truth in the Savile case and all the care home scandals.

claig Fri 02-Nov-12 15:59:03

I wonder if all the posters on here who always have a go at MP John Hemming will now think twice.

QuickLookBusy Fri 02-Nov-12 15:59:57

Exactly Claig. This whole scandle has been pushed under the carpet so many times, just like Hillsborough/Stephen Lawrence etc etc.

It's a blooming good job some people are obsessed with these things or the truth would never get out.

Alibabaandthe40nappies Fri 02-Nov-12 16:47:26

claig don't you fucking dare.

I haven't said at all that this shouldn't be investigated, or exposed - not at all.

What I find distasteful is the grandstanding, the 'ooh who will it be next, how exciting' attitude which some people are adopting.

donnie Fri 02-Nov-12 16:48:42

Dh has just reminded me that back in the 80s there were loads of rumours about a Certain member of Thatcher's cabinet. Someone who ended up getting big fat jobs in the eUropean Parliament iirr. he shares the same name as a footballer,apparently. I think it may be him.

DreamsTurnToGoldDust Fri 02-Nov-12 16:50:04

It appears that Newsnight are going to run the story without actually naming the politician.

DreamsTurnToGoldDust Fri 02-Nov-12 16:52:59

I have looked back over all the posts and cannot see anyone `excited` about this, however, people are very interested and it is a very large news story which will have implications all round. People naturally want to discuss it, and it seems to me that you are trying to read something into this thread which is just not there.

PropositionJoe Fri 02-Nov-12 16:55:22

John hemming is an arse. IMHO.

troubador Fri 02-Nov-12 16:56:43

I don't think anyone is grandstanding or 'excited'.

I, for one, am horrified by the whole thing. I'm thankful for the people who keep talking about it and pushing for it to be exposed because I just don't have the stomach to follow it very closely.

However, it's that kind of apathy that's enabled it to happen for so long. So I'm glad people are talking about it, I'm pleased I keep seeing threads about it in active convos. We NEED to make sure this doesn't get brushed under the carpet.

And I can see how it could be become an obsession. It's so bloody unjust - we should all be obsessed with how this has been allowed to happen, imo.

claig Fri 02-Nov-12 17:03:52

'What I find distasteful is the grandstanding, the 'ooh who will it be next, how exciting' attitude which some people are adopting.'

What I find distasteful is the fact that this was covered up for decades and Savile was enabled to get away with it. Of course people want to follow who will be exposed in the biggest scandal for the BBC and other institutions in 50 years.

EdithWeston Fri 02-Nov-12 17:04:58

I think it's unfair.

The BBC to refuse to comment on its own staff/procedures etc etc because they don't want to interfere with the police investigation.

But seem quite happy to deny others the similar basics of waiting until a police investigation has been properly carried out.

If BBC want trial by media, they could start with themselves. And at least wait until someone has been arrested (ideally wait until someone is charged) before they let a name be known to this who are bound to publicise it.

Either they trust the police investigations; in which case they need not pre-empt then on Newsnight.

Or they don't: in which case their internal investigations need a huge kick start.

MissMemoo Fri 02-Nov-12 17:10:59

Is it K--f--C???

DreamsTurnToGoldDust Fri 02-Nov-12 17:13:43

Part of that I agree with Edith, name them thats fine, but I presume with concrete evidence that the police will act on. What I find very uneasy though is saying that they are going to name a very senior politician, then pull out because of a gagging order, unless they have passed on the information to the police who will act on it.

CarnivorousPanda Fri 02-Nov-12 17:17:17

DonnieI heard those rumours too. Yes he was very senior and probably very litigious.

Nancy66 Fri 02-Nov-12 17:18:15

the name is going to come out whether they run with the programme or not it always does

DreamsTurnToGoldDust Fri 02-Nov-12 17:21:53

The name is out Nancy, but what will happen? I presume Newsnight must of had some evidence?

EdithWeston Fri 02-Nov-12 17:26:32

"the name is going to come out whether they run with the programme or not it always does"

Which is also a disgrace, as trial by media invariably is. Unless they are simultaneously accusing the police of failing to investigate right now - an immensely serious thing.

(I'm discounting the possibility that they have not passed evidence to the police as just too far-catches).

EdithWeston Fri 02-Nov-12 17:27:18

"far catches"?? Sorry 'far-fetched'

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