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Daily Mail's Anne Atkins - porridge on the menu?

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fourwalls Sun 21-Oct-12 10:13:03

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2220693/I-havent-handed-paedophile-police--hes-friend-family-A-leading-agony-aunt-makes-explosive-confession.html

Wonder if she's done this story because she's already had the knock on the door?

googlenut Sun 21-Oct-12 16:57:42

How awful that she still hasn't reported the guy and is getting publicity for not doing it. Doesn't she proclaim to be a Christian?

Darkesteyes Sun 21-Oct-12 18:00:45

googlenut most religions are mysogynistic and victim blaming when it comes to things like rape and abuse so i think this says more about Atkins than she wants it to.

Darkesteyes Sun 21-Oct-12 21:51:34

Atkins and my DM would get along famously.

posted on one of the original threads that when i visited my parents 2 weeks ago that they were saying that the victims are only coming forward for money. Went to visit them today thinking that they would think differently now that so many victims have come forward but nope!
My DM is still saying that they are doing it for money.
Some comments made....
1. Why are they going on TV. Have they no shame. They should be ashamed of themselves.
2. Why did one victim refuse to go on This Morning. If she was telling the truth she would want to go on there and talk about it!!!!!
Both comments came from my DM and contradict each other.
3. Why didnt they come forward earlier?
I had to for the umpteenth time explain to her that they did. And got ignored or laughed at or disbelieved.
Then DF said he was fed up of hearing about it on the news because its getting "monotonous"

What about the people who suffred at this evil mans hands and who are still suffering.
When someone is burgled no one blames the victim. Why is there so much victim blaming when the crime is abuse or rape?

MissM Mon 22-Oct-12 10:04:46

I've always disliked Anne Atkins and her smug 'Thought for the Day' slots on R4. Now I despise her even more. What a hypocritical, self-satisfied woman.

Darkesteyes Mon 22-Oct-12 17:02:03

She should be prosecuted for withholding information.

AmberLeaf Mon 22-Oct-12 17:11:18

Darkesteyes, comments from people I know that are questioning the victims, sicken me almost as much as the initial acts.

People having such attitudes are why its so hard to come forward!

The irony of that is always lost on victim blamers.

AmberLeaf Mon 22-Oct-12 17:16:27

As for Anne Atkins, she is a disgrace and utterly shameless.

Darkesteyes Mon 22-Oct-12 17:28:41

Totally agree Amber.
i have been having massive rows with my parents about this. I have a thread about it in Chat.
Atkins has admitted that she has been withholding information. If someone withheld information about a burglary or a mugging they would be in deep shit.
Why the bloody hell are sex abuse crimes and the knowledge of them not treated with equal importance.

hackmum Mon 22-Oct-12 17:31:28

You know what pisses me off. It's the fact that her response to the Jimmy Savile thing is to think, "Ooh, I didn't report that family friend who was a sex abuser. I wonder if could get a feature for the Daily Mail out of it." She might have redeemed herself slightly if the fee for the article was donated to the NSPCC or something.

Darkesteyes Mon 22-Oct-12 17:32:45

These abuse crimes should be treated with MORE importance.
Society seems to care more about property based crimes. Makes me angry.
Victim blamers are also enablers IMO.

JamieandtheMagicTorch Mon 22-Oct-12 17:34:23

She is a Christian. Married to a vicar. Her Thoughts for the Day are vacuous nonsense, IMO

Darkesteyes Mon 22-Oct-12 17:36:45

Exactly hackmum she should be picking up the phone and calling the police not swelling her own coffers by running to the Fail.
This JS case and the links to it have really shown up what sort of a society we live in. Makes me angry and fills me with despair.

JamieandtheMagicTorch Mon 22-Oct-12 17:37:25

And I cannot help wondering about the references she makes to "highly respected profession" and "affecting a community"

Darkesteyes Mon 22-Oct-12 17:38:15

Not the first time there has been a link between religion and child abuse cover ups, and unfortunately probably wont be the last.

DameFannyGallopsAtaGhost Mon 22-Oct-12 17:38:28

She's as stupid as she is vile. Let's hope she's arrested for this.

Darkesteyes Mon 22-Oct-12 17:39:48

If she isnt Dame i fucking well would want to know why.

LonelyCloud Mon 22-Oct-12 17:40:55

Despicable article.

I hope the police are going to be knocking on her door and demanding more information from her about this. Agree that she should be prosecuted for withholding information, especially as she claims to be certain that this man is guilty.

fiftyval Mon 22-Oct-12 18:11:40

I've always loathed her - agree with MissM - she epitomises the word smug. One of her smuggest 'thought for the day' diatribes was defending smacking of children IIRC.

BoneyBackJefferson Mon 22-Oct-12 18:32:51

If this was "chris" I would believe him, But this seems to be a case of jumping on the band wagon.

MissM Mon 22-Oct-12 20:31:10

Her justification seems to be that as the man abused hadn't gone to the police then she shouldn't. Or advise him that he should. Her self-justification has made me feel queasy all day. All that 'highly respected profession' stuff made me instantly think of the church too Jamie.

Some of the comments below the article are hilarious though - "Oo Anne, may I just say how lovely you look in that top and scarf combo" being the best. As if that justifies what she's saying.

BeatTheClock Mon 22-Oct-12 20:41:18

Oh blimey Atkins on Thought for the Day. I can't abide her. In fact I don't often like Thought for the Day anyway no matter who does it, but she always makes it worse.

inkyfingers Tue 23-Oct-12 09:13:47

Her article is a lot more nuanced than the comments above. In the article she doesn't condone saying nothing, she doesn't defend the abuser, she spells out the dilemma of many people Christians or not who haven't reported abuse. Chris in the article could have gone to the police, but he confided in a friend. Why? Who knows?

Choose your target.

LonelyCloud Tue 23-Oct-12 11:21:41

In the article, she says that she believes 'Chris' was telling the truth about being abused. She says that she knows other victims of 'Peter'.

BY not urging 'Chris' to contact the police, and by not going to the police with concerns herself, she is tacitly condoning saying nothing and tacitly excusing 'Peter's actions.

boschy Tue 23-Oct-12 11:37:38

Did anyone see her on TM just now? old Denise looked ready to get her by the throat.

Also on TM at 10.30: Max Clifford admitted that he had heard JS stories in relation to people coming to see him about GG, but had not acted on them, because it would have had to have been the victims themselves who would need to go to the police.

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