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Amanda Todd and cyber bullies

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QueenofDreams Mon 15-Oct-12 10:00:22

So I've taken a look and I haven't seen anything about this here, so I thought I'd bring this to the attention of Mumsnet. I came across this video on youtube yesterday and was very saddened to hear that this poor girl committed suicide last wednesday.

To me this looks like and extreme example of victim blaming. She was targeted by a sexual predator over the internet at the age of 12, yet she is branded a whore and a slut. Even now people comment that she deserved to die. Please watch the video, I would be interested in other people's thoughts on her story.

It makes me terribly sad that this girl was reaching out so desparately for acceptance and friendship and got nothing back but hate.

QueenofDreams Mon 15-Oct-12 10:13:21


GalaxyDefender Tue 16-Oct-12 08:58:36

Reading this story makes me despair, it really does. While poor Amanda made a few bad decisions, they probably came out of a lack of self-worth and a 12/14-year-old's naivete. But as a result, she suffered an abnormal amount of hatred and abuse, and as her parents seem to have done nothing to help her, she had no-one to support her through that.

The biggest thing to me is that the man who took the picture of her doesn't appear to have been pursued for owning child pornography, stalking, blackmail, harrassment ... why? A child took her own life because, essentially, some creep got off on intimidating her. And then another creep took advantage of her perceived "whore" status and essentially groomed her for sex.

I recommend not reading any comments section on ANY article about Amanda. It will make you boil with rage at the immaturity and victim-blaming that is rife on the internet.

QueenofDreams Tue 16-Oct-12 09:47:13

I agree, I totally despair at the comments saying she wasn't innocent, she got what was coming to her etc. Yet no hatred is directed at the grown man who got her to flash in the first place, took a picture and then tried to blackmail her into performing sexually for him over the internet. Only now that she's dead are the police seriously hunting for him. It's utterly shameful.

Witchety Tue 16-Oct-12 09:50:58

My dd showed me this yesterday. Very sad. Very. sad

SucksFake Tue 16-Oct-12 09:56:40

This is an incredibly sad story. I've read reports of her death, which have included some of the horrible comments left online following her death.

Unbelievable. Poor girl. I hope she is finally at peace.

lemontruffles Tue 16-Oct-12 10:04:43

This is so awful and horrible; facebook is the work of the devil at times like these. This poor child. This is unbelievably sad sad

lemontruffles Tue 16-Oct-12 11:24:17

* not just facebook, but all faceless internet communications that lure children in when they have no idea of the consequences. So sad.

QueenofDreams Tue 16-Oct-12 12:03:58

Totally agree. The facelessness also gives people the freedom to unleash a level of nastiness they wouldn't show to someone's face. Although it seems that that treatment spilt over into real life in her face viciousness as well.

I just don't understand why people don't grasp the fact that she was a child who was taken advantage of, and didn't deserve even a fraction of the hate levelled at her.

LittleWhiteWolf Tue 16-Oct-12 12:19:10

That poor little girl. I was bullied at school, at every school I went to except 6th form. It was awful but at least I could shut it all out when I went home. These days cyber bullying means kids have no escape from the taunts. My youngest SIL was bullied this way, too, although fortunatly it stopped a year ago.
Poor, poor girl.

RIP Amanda Todd.

GalaxyDefender Tue 16-Oct-12 13:32:26

I was bullied badly at school too, LittleWhiteWolf - ironically, I used to go home and escape from it on the internet! by playing Neopets
Now there is just no escape. I won't be able to just let DS use the internet like my parents did when I was a kid, it's so much easier now to get sucked into horrible, horrible things.

I hope your SIL is okay now xxx

BackOnceAgainWithLoopyLoops Wed 17-Oct-12 10:40:01

So, today it emerges that an online hacker vigilante group have revealed the alleged) culprit of taking her topless photos (at 12), posting them all over facebook and stalking her - sending again every time she moved school as an (ex?) Facebook employee. here

HecateLarpo Wed 17-Oct-12 10:50:30

My god. Some of the comments on that video. There are some sick bastards out there.

That was a child. A bloody child. Poor, poor girl. It's heartbreaking. How can people be so cruel?

catwomanlikesmeatballs Wed 17-Oct-12 22:16:56

Sickening, the poor child. I don't understand why the police weren't involved when this first started. Child pornography, stalking, harrassment of a child....horrible, hope the fucker responsible is severely punished, finally...

lemontruffles Sat 20-Oct-12 23:50:33

queenofdreams I don't understand a lot of things, it seems: a person of 12 is a child, isn't she? A child??

After I looked at the Amanda Todd video I watched a few others; all made by teenagers who have been abused/bullied. I had no idea about these videos. It was incredibly sad to watch them, but also sort of uplifting that they had found a voice, somehow, god knows how for some of these teenagers, albeit online. (but some of the comments were breathtakingly cruel - although many were kind and supportive).

lemontruffles Sat 20-Oct-12 23:51:10

I also don't understand.....

ThatVikRinA22 Sat 20-Oct-12 23:58:26

its very sad. How awful that she felt the only way out was suicide. I wonder how much her parents knew - or didnt know.

i would have thrown away everysingle computer from the house. closed facebook. twitter. all accounts would have gone.

then i would have dealt with any bullying that was not cyber in the most robust way possible because if its not cyber bullying it means you can get your hands on the little fuckers

Toughasoldboots Sun 21-Oct-12 00:01:58

It is the anonymity I agree. That poor girl, the Internet unleashes the nastiest side of some people.
I was thinking that today when I was reading the eBay thread on here, grown women linking to eBay adverts and sniggering about 'back fat' on one women and bitching about her figure.
It allows the cowards that bullies are, to let that poisonous bile come out in relative safety.

I hope that man doesn't sleep well tonight.

OldLadyKnowsNothing Sun 21-Oct-12 00:17:31

When I first heard of this news, from my DS (aged 22y) I thought it was a spoof, a hoax, an apocryphal story to show young girls the potential fallout from "sexting".

I am very, very sad that it isn't, that it's real, that this child actually took her own life. That she wasn't engaged in "sexting" at all, but was being abused.

But maybe, just maybe , it will have that effect, and teenage people will stop "sexting" each other? Creating childporn is never a good idea, even if you're the child involved.

I'm going to bed now, will await my flaming later.

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