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Justin Lee Collins

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GlibGlobGloo Wed 26-Sep-12 14:24:49

It just goes to show that you can't spot an abusive twat easily. Who'd have guessed?

story, sorry, Torygraph

owlelf Tue 16-Oct-12 21:18:17

I am surprised somehow that JLC's rant can be broadcast. I think it's illegal to record someone without their consent, unless the recording is to be used as evidence to a crime (I think this was confirmed by a MNetter with more experience earlier on this thread).

So I can see how the recording could be used in court, but I wouldn't have thought it would be ok to broadcast it outside the court.

To clarify though, I believe Anna and I'm glad she had the forsight to make the recording- I'm just surprised (pleasantly) that there is no problem with his foul rant being broadcast.

Animation Tue 16-Oct-12 20:33:53

I've listened to that rant as well. He's horrendous!

Glad it's there for people to judge for themselves.

He really thinks he's not an abuser does he? Well the evidence says overwise.

He kept telling her she must apologise and never look at anybody or anything ...only the floor.. hmm

iceandsliceplease Tue 16-Oct-12 20:12:09

There's a podcast available on the 5Live website - but the synopsis of it is that she talked about how the relationship started, how he behaved when they were together before detailing the type of abuse she suffered. They played the full clip of JLC's rant at her which was much much worse than I'd seen it reported - he goes on to tell her what she'd done wrong, and how she should behave to make it up to him. What was really horrible was that he didn't seem furiously angry with her - angry, but in control of himself.

She said the reason she taped the rant was because she'd already decided to leave him and move back home with her parents. She knew that it would be really hard, so she wanted to have a recording of him of him being abusive so that if she was wavering, she would listen to the recording again and that would stiffen her resolve. At the time of making the recording, she had no intention of going to the Police - I missed the next bit of the interview, so don't know why she decided to.

She said she had been paid for some interviews (but not with the BBC), she wasn't sure how much in total, but she had donated all the money to Refuge to thank them for their support. She also said she was in talks with them about launching a campaign to inform people about abuse. She was fairly scathing about the sentence JLC received, saying a short custodial sentence would have been better, along with some anger management counselling.

Quite hard listening at times, but I thought she came out of it well - you can tell she doesn't fully understand herself why she put up with it now, but she seems determined to show people that his behaviour was abuse, whatever he claims.

lighthousekeeping Tue 16-Oct-12 16:15:31

Does anyone know what Anna said on radio 5 this morning?

iceandsliceplease Mon 15-Oct-12 13:55:41

Heard earlier today that that Anna is going to be on Radio 5 tomorrow morning, talking to Victoria Derbyshire, so presumably a lot of the questions people have been asking on here will be addressed then.

FreedomToChoose Sun 14-Oct-12 02:57:36

It seems anyone with him was in for bad times as he would say.

lighthousekeeping Sat 13-Oct-12 17:16:10

I saw this whilst I was at the shops. Haven't read it.

DowagersHump Thu 11-Oct-12 22:02:26

Completely agree Abigail. And thanks for sharing that article, it's great smile

Valpollicella Thu 11-Oct-12 21:51:37

Well said Abigail

lighthousekeeping Thu 11-Oct-12 20:15:26

That article is fantastic. I've shared it on Facebook and my friends have done the same. We all should!

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Thu 11-Oct-12 17:59:12

YY Abigail - if someone is subjected to medical negligence or something and goes to the papers, no-one says they decided to get themselves neglected just for the money, do they?

AbigailAdams Thu 11-Oct-12 17:03:17

This whole outcry about women selling their stories of abusive relationships to papers is a silencing tactic. And it is misogynistic.

This is a good article about the whole affair.

And from that, a reminder of what he did:

"...because he wasn't found guilty of using nasty words. He was found guilty of two counts of putting another person in fear of violence, even though there was probably enough evidence to charge him with assault.

He slapped her. He hit her private parts. He spat on her. He threatened to kill her. He boxed her ears. He bruised her arms. He pulled her hair. He threw a sat-nav at her."

JLC is a violent, controlling man. It should be all over the papers. What he did should be written up, she should be able to talk about it. It could help other women in the same situation. It could help other women recognise red flags in their own relationship. It could provoke a whole host of other women taping their abusive partners and securing their convictions. And this faux moralistic stance that she shouldn't talk to the papers (and get money from it) comes from a root of wanting to discredit women, disbelieving them and trying to shut them up.

She did not put up with a violent abusive relationship to sell it in the papers. The fact that people think that really reflects back on them.

DuelingFanjo Thu 11-Oct-12 10:16:51

Does Feeling think he wasn't abusive? I can't undrstand why someone would blame the victim unless this is what they think. Unless you think she deserved it feeling?

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Thu 11-Oct-12 09:22:35

I know a 100% foolproof way to stop peOple making money out of taping you being abusive: don't be abusive.

EmBOOsa Thu 11-Oct-12 09:15:33

I was thinking about this last night, so what if she doesn't donate to charity. If someone had been through some horrific accident would you make snidey comments about them selling their story? Why the fuck shouldn't she find a silver lining in all of this?

Animation Thu 11-Oct-12 07:48:05

Yes, whatever she does now doesn't NEGATE that he is an emotional and physical abuser.

Thank goodness she had the foresight to tape some it. It would have been his word against hers otherwise - in court. Hope more women follow suit.

MrsDeVere Thu 11-Oct-12 07:07:46

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Darkesteyes Thu 11-Oct-12 01:50:47

Darkesteyes Thu 11-Oct-12 01:48:49

Copied and pasted from the Grazia website.

ALSO-Emotional abuse hit the headlines last week as comedian Justin Lee Collins was accused of mentally toturing his girlfriend, even forcing her to sleep facing him. It's a form of bullying that will soon be illegal, thanks to the Government's shake-up of domestic violence laws. Laura* tells Grazia of the torment she suffered at the hands of her boyfriend

Darkesteyes Thu 11-Oct-12 01:46:25

Look at it this way Feeling. If she does sell her story it might well be to one of the celeb mags like Closer or Grazia. A lot of teenage girls and young women read those mags. They are not the best reading matter around but if they carry her story it can show girls and young women the signs to watch out for which is no bad thing. It raises awareness. I had never heard of EA in a relationship when i was a teenager.
In fact i clocked on the cover of this weeks Grazia that a young woman has already given them an interview about her verbally abusive relationship.
If this can raise more awareness among young women and leads to just one woman avoiding or escaping an abusive relationship then job done as far as im concerned.

feelingawfullylow Thu 11-Oct-12 01:16:45

OK if she gives the money to any kind of charity I'll eat my words. But I bet she doesn't. I've said JLC is vile.

EmBOOsa Wed 10-Oct-12 23:26:41

feeling So you think she made him yell at her?

Also, I should point out, I read earlier that actually she was planning on giving money to a DV charity and also planning on using this hideous situation to make people more aware of DV/emotional abuse, how to escape from it, and (more importantly) making sure it is recognised in law.

You think she's not brave? What the fuck have you done for victims of abuse?

RedBlanket Wed 10-Oct-12 22:59:44

She might well have recorded him to sell her story, but he still said it.

He still isn't owning up to it either.

Valpollicella Wed 10-Oct-12 22:48:09

She rrcorded it to sell her story? Bollocks did she.

And even if she did, does it discount his verbal abuse?

UltraBOF Wed 10-Oct-12 22:37:40

What 'story' is there if he had just said "Blimey love, you could have got the beers in!"?

He didn't. He launched into a tirade of ABUSE, for which a courtroom convicted him of harassment. What is so hard to understand about that?

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