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Young mum takes child from hospital

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BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability Fri 21-Sep-12 18:45:53

link to local news site

I'm confused by this? Police has said that they have no reason to believe they are in any danger. The post on their facebook says "we have no reason to believe they are higher risk than any mother and new baby"
So basically, the news is "woman takes own baby home from hospital"?
They havent been officially discharged, but this isnt breaking the law is it?
Yes shes 19, but last I checked, 19 is an adult!!

BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability Fri 21-Sep-12 18:46:54

Btw, the "no reason..." comment implies to me there isnt any social services involvement or anything, maybe I'm wrong there though...?

AGoldenOrange Fri 21-Sep-12 18:47:29

That says that they are concerned about the mothers health

BoysBoysBoysAndMe Fri 21-Sep-12 18:48:46

Could be absolutely anything really couldn't it?

My personal opinion is that if mother and/or baby is that vulnerable that it's in the news, then mum should be identified. She would be found quicker then surely?

Let's hope they're both safe and well.

Tuttutitlookslikerain Fri 21-Sep-12 18:49:45

Perhaps she suffered heavy blood loss and they are worried about her haemorrhaging. It certainly reads like they are more worried about her health than the baby's.

I hope she is ok.

StateofConfusion Fri 21-Sep-12 18:50:18

Most bizare, if they're not concerned why's it in the news?

solidgoldbrass Fri 21-Sep-12 18:52:58

I would imagine that she has some form of SN or mental health issues - or possibly some of her family members are known to be dodgy in some way and, while there isn't a court order, she fears one being put in place so she's done a runner while not fully recovered from the birth.

BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability Fri 21-Sep-12 18:54:58

Surely the "no reason" comment from the police shows she isnt haemoraging? Or they would say, "she is ill, contact us asap"

They have been identified on the police fb page btw smile hopefully she'll show up soon now.

Took days for me to be discharged from said hospital btw... may be slightly exaggerating

BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability Fri 21-Sep-12 18:56:42

Its the "no reason" comment thats throwing me tbh, i understand the reasons she may have gone awol, but surely these reasons are reasons to be concerned, IYSWIM?

BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability Fri 21-Sep-12 19:07:47

Eg, if social services are looking after her because she has violent parents, surely this is a concern that she may go to them?

EmmelineGoulden Fri 21-Sep-12 19:37:58

I think sgb may be right, if they think she's considered vulnerable and she left the hospital against advice, she probably fears (rightly or wrongly) being made to do something she doesn't want to.

Regardless, the report sounds like she hasn't gone back to her home and no one who would normally be expected to knows where she is. Even if she were not considered vulnerable, that would be a worry with a newborn because anything could have happened and newborns are not the most robust people. I would hope police would look for any mother and newborn in those circumstances.

It seems quite sad, and I hope she has the resources she needs to keep herself and her baby safe and comfortable.

BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability Fri 21-Sep-12 20:41:31

Sorry you're right it does say she's missing in the report. It doesn't on the facbook page, which is what threw me

maxmillie Fri 21-Sep-12 20:54:22

i left without being discharged once as, after 4 days, I just couldnt stand the post-natal ward anymore and it was new years eve and all the doctors were at the staff party and noone would come and discharge me.

Anyway, there was no news alert, as the midwife came round a few hours after they finally noticed and bought all the forms etc. Presumably why this is an issue - they cant contact her at home ?

SheelaNeGoldGig Fri 21-Sep-12 21:06:33

She probably got fed up with waiting for an official discharge.

topknob Fri 21-Sep-12 21:09:27

The report says she is vunerable so I assume she has special needs of some kind. So sad they feel she cannot take care of her own baby, but who knows.

BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability Sat 22-Sep-12 11:06:45

The report does, but the info request on facebook doesnt, although a lot of people have commented that after giving birth she will be vulnerable.

Tell you what, I'll copy and paste it now, hopefully you can see what I mean then.......

BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability Sat 22-Sep-12 11:08:08

"Gwent Police - Police are appealing for information regarding the whereabouts of a new mother and baby who left the Royal Gwent Hospital yesterday afternoon after giving birth yesterday morning (Thursday September 20th)

Nineteen year old Sammy Edwards from Cwmbran gave birth to a baby boy at approximately 5am yesterday morning. She was seen leaving the Royal Gwent Hospital at 4.30pm yesterday afternoon. She had discharged herself without her or the baby having their final health checks.

While there is nothing to suggest she or the baby are at higher risk than any other new mum and young baby, Police are concerned for Sammy and would like her to contact them to let them know she is safe and well.

Officers have been carrying out local enquiries as its believed Sammy is still in the Cwmbran area and that she and the baby are staying with someone she knows.

Sammy is described as five feet four inches, slim build and black hair. When she was last seen she was wearing a black tracksuit and a pink hoody.

Anyone with information is asked to call 101"

edam Sat 22-Sep-12 11:34:12

Very odd. Hope Mother and baby are safe and well, wherever they are.

Extrospektiv Sat 22-Sep-12 13:55:54

Could just be some overzealous "pro-safeguarding fundamentalist" in the plod. Difficult to understand, I agree.

edam Sat 22-Sep-12 14:35:19

Or an over-zealous social worker, or genuine fears for the wellbeing of a woman who is vulnerable in some way that we don't know about (beyond the normal for a new Mother).

SchrodingersMew Sat 22-Sep-12 14:54:22

So basically a "Woman" has left the hospital with her baby. You only have to stay something like 3 hours don't you?

I remember when I had DS a few of us almost felt imprisoned as we weren't allowed to leave before checks but they kept saying that it would be done soon and it never happened when they said it would.

I was left in the same sheets from right after I had DS, covered in blood etc, wasn't given Ibuprofen even after asking (episiotomy, forceps, ruptured stitches and haematoma), I have a crazy phobia of hospitals and was having panic attacks because of it and was in so much pain it was murder to get up to DS with no help around. I ended up begging for him to be checked at 1am after being told all day it would happen, they checked him and wouldn't let me leave with him saying he was "jittery" of course he bloody was, this happened when she had stripped him down in a cold room!

I don't blame her if she left if the hospital was even nearly the same as the one I was at.

SchrodingersMew Sat 22-Sep-12 14:57:46

They let me leave on the premise that DS would stay in SCBU until morning (8am) as they thought he possibly had withdrawl from the painkillers I was given during pg, they let him out nearly 3 days later saying that he had never shown any signs at all, I had to agree to BF before they would let me take him as they wanted to keep him in longer, I ended up crying, begging saying I wasn't able to bond, all it took was me bloody agreeing to bf..


Sorry, went off on a bit of an emotional tangent there but this news story has hit a nerve.

LemarchandsBox Sat 22-Sep-12 15:15:43

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SchrodingersMew Sat 22-Sep-12 15:23:51

Thanks for the hug. smile Just saying that there might be reasons she left that hospital, for all we know she might have feared for her own safety or her childs, we don't know what the conditions were like (and they can be disgraceful sometimes).

It says she "discharged herself" before health checks were done, well that's not just running away from the hospital, that is signing discharge forms. If they were really that worried they could have arranged the checks at that time or if they knew she was leaving and it was a child protection problem, called security.

Something about this story is strange and just smacks of 'we own you and your child and you can't have them unless we say so.'

Birdsgottafly Sat 22-Sep-12 15:24:55

It sounds as though the mum hasn't returned to her home and she hasn't contacted the hospital or police, to say that she is well, so that should be a concern.

There could be numerous reasons, she may have come from a shelter for DV victims, for example.

Police (and services) obviously don't want to cause her distress, but need to know that her and the baby is well. The baby has that right of protection, as well as mum, whomay be vulnerable for other reasons.

Without knowing the circumstances, the police cannot be criticised at this stage.

Confusion can follow blood loss etc.

It shouldn't be needed to tell the world her business/past, at this stage.

Her picture has been released.

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