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Did he deserve this?

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TheLadyEvenstar Mon 03-Oct-11 16:51:45


meditrina Mon 03-Oct-11 20:07:20

Well, we don't have the death penalty in UK so this is very wrong. And it is alarming how unsafe our prisons can be.

TheLadyEvenstar Mon 03-Oct-11 20:15:37

Medi, no we don't have however this was not carried out by prison officers or allowed by the government it was an attack by fellow inmates.

I guess I am of the mind one less scumbag to be a burden financially on the state.

TinyPawz Tue 04-Oct-11 19:33:10

Yep. He did

freybean Tue 04-Oct-11 19:52:35

yep and i hope it was painful!

zookeeper Tue 04-Oct-11 19:56:19

I don't think he did, no. Two wrongs and all that...he's somebody's mother's son.

ragged Tue 04-Oct-11 19:56:21

I don't care about "deserve".
I do care about applauding psychopaths who dish out whatever justice they see fit. There's something wrong with that picture...

zookeeper Tue 04-Oct-11 19:56:46

some mother's son, even

LetThereBeRock Tue 04-Oct-11 20:01:01

The people who did this were as screwed up and evil as he was. I see no reason to applaud them.

babycham42 Tue 04-Oct-11 20:06:18

My thoughts are with his victims who did not deserve what happened to them.

I have no feelings for what happened to him.

CogitoErgoSometimes Tue 04-Oct-11 21:04:36

No-one deserves to be murdered, whoever they are. We have a long-standing democratic system of justice & if we start cheering at murder we debase ourselves as a society.

Gigondas Tue 04-Oct-11 21:07:12

What cogito says

crazynanna Tue 04-Oct-11 21:11:30

I wanted to do some terrible things to the "man" who abused my dd...really terrible things. But if I had...I know I would be no better than "him".
Anyhow,I had to let it go....I was losing my mind.

Jux Tue 04-Oct-11 21:18:28

It's vile; death penalty not supposed to be in force in this country and I hope it never will be (again). As cogito says, no one deserves to be murdered, not even murderers. We are supposed to be better than they are. An ex-con I know has intimated that sometimes the warders will allow a sex offender (particularly a child sex offender) to somehow be left in a vulnerable position where they can be beaten up by other inmates.

babycham42 Tue 04-Oct-11 21:45:34

I really cannot waste my emotional energy on this criminal.I can be extremely sad and angry about the impact of his actions on the 13 year old he raped and the others he abused.
I would like to see the re introduction of the death penalty and I don"t care what flak I get for saying that.

meditrina Tue 04-Oct-11 21:46:05

"Medi, no we don't have however this was not carried out by prison officers or allowed by the government it was an attack by fellow inmates".

He was confined by the State, in a place for punishment and rehabilitation (if possible). There is a direct responsibility for the safety of all those incarcerated. It is a failing in our prisons that murderous attacks can take place within them. It is wrong.

TheLadyEvenstar Tue 04-Oct-11 21:48:03

Babycham, I am right with you there!

babycham42 Tue 04-Oct-11 21:53:02

medi it is a failing in our society that 13 year olds get raped and we hand out jokes for sentences in my opinion.

meditrina Tue 04-Oct-11 22:49:24

Babycham42: although I woudn't agree with you about the death penalty, it's a position I can respect.

But murder in our prisons is nothing whatsoever do do with sentencing policy.

NanaNina Tue 04-Oct-11 22:52:37

I don't believe anything I read in the Sun or any of the tabloids and Daily Mail

babycham42 Wed 05-Oct-11 22:59:58

There I disagree meditrina.If sentencing policy dealt with such criminals effectively,fellow inmates perhaps would not feel it was up to them to dish out what they feel is justice.

Four and a half years for the terror that 13 year old went through.That is what really upsets me.It"s been on my mind all day and try as I might I just CANNOT feel differently.

scarlettsmummy2 Wed 05-Oct-11 23:03:07

If I was the mother of one of the children he abused, I would say he absolutely deserved it. However, mob justice is a slippery slope, and not something that I think any rational person would actually want.

GypsyMoth Wed 05-Oct-11 23:04:46

I worked on a child murder case in the 90's. I was one of first officers on scene and saw very upsetting and detailed things that day. It was a known paedophile who did it, got him that same day

A mumsnetter sent me a link a couple of months back. The killer, Colin hatch, was murdered in prison earlier this year and I thank god for that. I really do

Sevenfold Wed 05-Oct-11 23:08:57

do you know, I thought about this on Monday, have come back now, and I still don't care that he was killed

scarlettsmummy2 Wed 05-Oct-11 23:13:16

I am not going to loose any sleep over him being murdered, however, I don't think this should be seen as normal or acceptable.

I also do think the prison had a duty of care, and this will no doubt lead to an internal enquiry over how it was allowed to happen.

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