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16 Months For Charlie Gilmour (Student Fees Demo)

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LemonDifficult Fri 15-Jul-11 14:44:40

I wasn't very sympathetic to the rioters but 16 months seems a long time to put someone this young away for. Ridiculous. He'll get the fright of his life in the first few weeks and then what? What's the point of all those extra months - at tax payers expense.

I guess he won't do the full term, but still. It seems crazy.

lachesis Fri 15-Jul-11 14:47:18

Good. He's a ridiculous buffoon. Too bad they never caught all the others.

It would be even better if he could be chucked out of the country forever.

Pedallleur Fri 15-Jul-11 14:54:20

it won't be a hard jail he's in and I'm sure dad's money will help. had he finished at cambridge or is this going to be a 'gap year'? Still a bit of 'jailhouse rock' yah?

noddyholder Fri 15-Jul-11 14:55:43

I think its too long. Why would he be thrown out of the country? Where do you suggest he goes grin

LemonDifficult Fri 15-Jul-11 14:59:08

C'mon - he's a 21 year old softy student, hardly a hardened criminal we need taken off our streets. I really don't think he'll see it as 'jailhouse rock, yah'. I think it will be horrific for him - and disproportionate to his crime.

Pedalleur, it sounds like you want him punished extra for being posh!

Riveninside Fri 15-Jul-11 16:14:33

Bit harsh for first ogfence i though. Thugs who beat people up dont even get that after many offences.
Guess he will have to take a year off then finish his last year at uni.

Ponders Fri 15-Jul-11 17:00:40

Very harsh for 1st offence & apparently the Cenotaph thing wasn't part of the judgement, just C&C's car - would it have been the same if it was some other bod's car? hmm

Riven, Cambridge have not said if they will let him back in.

Ponders Fri 15-Jul-11 17:03:39

oh, no, it wouldn't have - the judge said "it would be 'wrong to ignore who the occupants of the three cars were' and that this was an aggravating feature in the case."

I would have thought community service a much more sensible & effective punishment.

2shoes Fri 15-Jul-11 17:04:02

serves him right, don't see why people are all sympathetic, he is a thug

lachesis Fri 15-Jul-11 17:05:27

People who behave like thugs should spend time in jail, no matter who they are. No one puts a gun to someone's head and forces them to take a cocktail of drugs and wash it down with alcohol, then act like a thug.

Ponders Fri 15-Jul-11 17:07:26

yes he was thuggish, but so were plenty of others - they are making an example of him.

The one who threw the fire extinguisher off the roof got 32 months - was that really only twice as bad as sitting on a car bonnet & throwing a dustbin?

lachesis Fri 15-Jul-11 17:08:50

They should make more an example of all people who behave like thugs.

Tough shit! Maybe next time he'll think twice about acting like a lout.

arazmataz Fri 15-Jul-11 17:10:05

I should think the arson will have drawn a harsher sentence. You can kill a lot of people with arson, if the fire you start gets out of control.

Ponders Fri 15-Jul-11 17:11:18

there were 100s of them, lachesis. Supposing they'd caught them all & banged them all up for 16 months? we would be paying their board & lodging, & there's be less space in prison for proper villains.

lachesis Fri 15-Jul-11 17:13:30

I'd put them to work, Ponders. I'd be far harder on them and rip up the EU human rights crock.

Can't say I really care this hooligan was locked up.

So what?

I save my sympathy for people who aren't criminals.

starmucks Fri 15-Jul-11 17:16:00

It is harsh but his behaviour detracted from a really important demonstration. The point of the protests was completely eclipsed by his, and others, stupid actions. I do feel bad that this is going to follow him for the rest of his life but, if he has any sense, he will learn a powerful lesson in humility and not let it define him.

noddyholder Fri 15-Jul-11 17:16:46

Young people and demos is a heat of the moment thing. He is probably no more likely to commit another offence than any of the others on the march who didn't get arrested and so it is a complete waste of time locking him up. What will he learn? Probably nothing as he is intelligent and as he matures will know what he did wrong himself That is the way most people learn. He is not a danger to anyone and the cost of this is ridiculous when there are many people who are committing offences and nothing happens to them!

DandyGilver Fri 15-Jul-11 17:18:12

Ridiculous when repeat drink drivers can get off with a fine and points on their license.

aliceliddell Fri 15-Jul-11 17:20:59

Has anyone mentioned the 6 footballers and the 12yr old girls?
Maybe a teensy bit out of proportion?

SardineQueen Fri 15-Jul-11 17:21:15

Agree with Noddy.

arazmataz Fri 15-Jul-11 17:23:11

It might stop him setting fire to things in future. Once you've got a criminal record it's best not to compound it with further offences.

Riveninside Fri 15-Jul-11 17:29:48

Community service would have been a better idea. Serving others daily.

catinthehat2 Fri 15-Jul-11 17:31:08

But his daddy is a famous rich musician
And he's at Cambridge

Prison is only for poor thickos

Don't you people understand anything?

LtEveDallas Fri 15-Jul-11 17:43:25

Maybe our views are screwed? I don't think this sentence is harsh, I think it's just right. It's the other sentences that aren't harsh enough. Drink drivers for example should also get custodial sentences.

allegrageller Fri 15-Jul-11 17:46:17

catinthehat it seems to me this is the reverse issue- e.g. he's been imprisoned for a very extensive term entirely because Daddy is rich and famous. Which doesn't seem fair either.

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