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benefit change could breach law

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borderslass · 08/01/2011 09:45

here

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greencaterpillar · 08/01/2011 11:04

There is a realism when people need DLA but so far
in order to get it one depends on opinion of the GP and the nurse.
Consultation ending 14th February.

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2shoes · 08/01/2011 11:07

I hope the government end up having to back track, this is going to ruin lives.
taking that part of DLA away will affect the most disabled people. people who can't just buy a cheap run around.

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sheepgomeep · 08/01/2011 11:34

Its awful isn't it. My ds gets DLA and I have resigned myself to the fact that he will lose it now.

This is going to impact on so many lives. Shame on the govt for this

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GooseFatRoasties · 08/01/2011 11:45

I hope the government get pulled up on this. It's terrible.

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greencaterpillar · 08/01/2011 13:53

DLA will be like cancer drugs, or second opinion you: have a right but you don't get them always.

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electra · 08/01/2011 14:26

I heard this today on the radio. I hope this will make it more difficult for the government to go ahead with their fascist plans. On another thread the other day I was getting called 'hysterical' for saying the tories don't care about vulnerable people. Hmm

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greencaterpillar · 08/01/2011 15:12

I have not yet seen somebody in office who really cares, I have seen disabled people in the cold and rain sleeping in the streets for at least 10 years

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2shoes · 08/01/2011 15:58

I wish this got as much support as the EE threads did, strange how mn can get up in arms over fiction, but rl horror like this is ignored

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bullet234 · 08/01/2011 16:16

In reply to the OP, yes, it's a bloody disgrace that they are even thinking of implementing these changes.

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Niceguy2 · 08/01/2011 16:50

This is an item where the govt cannot win so previous governments (including Thatcher) have pretty much left it well alone.

As soon as you initiate any reforms then someone must lose out and the press will then happily post pictures of wheelchair bound people chaining themselves to the railings at Westminster.

But the problem is that we're up to our eyeballs in debt and simply cannot afford to continue with the status quo. So something needs to be done. Someone must lose out. Or we all lose out eventually as the weight of our debts will just collapse us.

We do need to support our vulnerable and sick but its where you draw the line that's the hardest. We simply don't have a magic pot of money. What we did have has run out so something has to give.

I don't envy whoever has to make the decision at all.

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donkeyderby · 08/01/2011 17:22

'We simply don't have a magic pot of money'....so let's take money away from the most vulnerable of all and leave inheritance tax and top band tax as it was.

Yes, that's really fair, isn't it?

Let the people at the bottom pay for the banking crisis. Good. Well said Niceguy. You could be working for the coalition

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2shoes · 08/01/2011 17:30

so niceguy you think that vulnerable disabled people should be made to suffer more??
see that is the problem people just don't see the bigger picture, or don't care

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ilovemydogandMrObama · 08/01/2011 17:35

Good. Hope the government has to back track on this, but am also wondering about the Fawcett's Society challenge that the benefit cuts discriminated against women and children.

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expatinscotland · 08/01/2011 17:43

Well said, donkey!

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Niceguy2 · 08/01/2011 18:07

Well Donkey WWYD?

Tax the rich more? Oh yes that's always the answer isn't it?

And another one who thinks the banking crisis is to blame for our structural deficit. Oh please!

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GooseFatRoasties · 08/01/2011 18:19

Taxing the rich is preferable to penalising the disabled IMHO.

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2shoes · 08/01/2011 18:28

anything has to be better than taking support away from disabled people

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electra · 08/01/2011 18:46

Wow niceguy - what patronising posts you subject us all to on MN.

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greencaterpillar · 08/01/2011 18:58

Niceguy I liked your posts, only I wish to add the matter was left for several epochs as it was in the pot and as bad as it could be. And in fact nothing much going in the pot except drops in the ocean for decades but there was not much tumultuous either from anybody. we did not know how many disabled there are - I know what is to care for a D child. Not only droplets going in for disabled but much going out of their pot in other ways since in 2002: DLA children of widows were deprived the £10 weekly tip they were getting! after they lost the dad!!! The widow was deprived of the inheritance of pitiful SERPS that could add to her utterly pitiful allowance for ever, and her disabled child ..guess.? Nobody fired then. what a sad story! WE never get them these stories in the news. I do not know who is good the bad and the ugly anymore. To continue the story, as nothing much was in the pot for disabled - even in the pre-coalition - and more getting out, the rising costs caught eventually on our debts. The thing is most of us only have debts. Time has passed since then and people forget. The debts do not forget anybody.

If you want to raise more the headlines first look at the inner city schools and how disability and SEN is tackled there.

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greencaterpillar · 08/01/2011 19:04

Support has been taken away from the disabled constantly since long but we noticed now

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greencaterpillar · 08/01/2011 19:09

Te very rich as well have disabled in their families did you know?

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tallwivglasses · 08/01/2011 19:15

I was hoping to join in the debate but green, i'm sorry, I don't understand you.

Agree with donkeyderby though.

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Newgolddream · 08/01/2011 19:18

It just gets worse and worse, the cuts are coming too fast and too much all dressed up in Tory hype - they would have done this anyway regardless of how much debt this country is in, its just convenient for them to blame it all on that.

electra - you are absolutely correct, they dont care about vulnerable people.

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tallwivglasses · 08/01/2011 19:37

Apart from clamping down on tax-dodgers and reassessing our involvement in wars for a start, didn't the London NY fireworks cost 1 million?

Why attack the most vulnerable?

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tallwivglasses · 08/01/2011 19:38

Sorry, poor post. I meant there were other options for cutbacks Blush

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