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Prince Charles and Camilla/student protests

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varicoseveined Fri 10-Dec-10 10:58:56

So who else thinks this is a bit of propaganda to decrease public support from students? It's London, there are so many possible routes but the driver HAD to drive into the thick of it?

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/theroyalfamily /8193570/Prince-Charles-and-Camilla-car-attack-som eone-could-have-died.html

BadgersPaws Fri 10-Dec-10 11:00:32

Even if it was deliberately provocative the students didn't have to be so stupid so as to take the bait.

nightmarebeforechristmas Fri 10-Dec-10 11:00:55

no I think it just highlights how out of control the "protesters" were

bluecardi Fri 10-Dec-10 11:03:41

Many ordinary people can't go out because of thugs & violence

trialiad Fri 10-Dec-10 11:06:35

Forgetting for a second the "heir to the throne" stuff - I just think its not on to attack a car with two elderly people in it, no matter what you are protesting.

I was broadly in support before it turned nasty. Its a shame because I don't think for a second that the "real" protesters would have condoned this. It totally plays into the hands of the right wing press.

curlymama Fri 10-Dec-10 11:11:59

Er no. They are not going to knowingly put the life of the heir to the throne at risk just to decrease public support for students.

And there would be no need anyway, the students are doing a good enough job of losing sympathy for themselves.

GiddyPickle Fri 10-Dec-10 11:23:17

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expatinscotland Fri 10-Dec-10 11:27:08

Get real! A bit of propoganda, ffs.

They were 2 miles away, these 'protesters' went there to deliberately target them.

And al the violence, utterly disgusting behaviour, attacking animals.

That's sick, not on and disgusting.

All because you might have to pay for your higher education?

Boohoo! Cry me a river.

sue52 Fri 10-Dec-10 11:31:58

No, I don' think it's right wing propaganda to derail the student protest. Sadly the students are doing that for themselves.

claig Fri 10-Dec-10 11:32:17

'If any car had been set upon like that and an innocent couple on a main shopping route terrorised like that, it would have made the news.'

Were any other cars set upon or was that the only one?

DuelingFanio Fri 10-Dec-10 11:33:29

I don't think tghey knowingly did it but it sure is getting spun to take the focus of the really important story.

How long were they there for, about 2 minutes in a huge car - they weren't in any great danger. It's all just bollox.

nightmarebeforechristmas Fri 10-Dec-10 11:36:37

did you see the car on the news?

claig Fri 10-Dec-10 11:37:40

Somebody was interviewed on TV and said he thought it was crazy that the car was heading up Regent Street, when the protesters were all at the top of the street. He wondered whether an alternate route might have been appropriate.

nightmarebeforechristmas Fri 10-Dec-10 11:38:48

seems sad that people can't go about their business without being attacked by hooligans.

SparkleSoiree Fri 10-Dec-10 11:41:25

Claig - in the protests the other week there was a car damaged that belonged to a member of public - black mini if I recall - and they reported on it and interviewed the owner.

If that were my grandparents or parents in the car I would be fuming. Threatening and violent behaviour is not acceptable in our society and I am surprised that in MN (where the first hint of violence in a relationship thread begins cries of 'leave him!') you are actually trying to condone this because it's 'propoganda'.

expatinscotland Fri 10-Dec-10 11:45:37

'How long were they there for, about 2 minutes in a huge car - they weren't in any great danger. It's all just bollox.'

Are you for real? If that had been me, I'd have been terrified! How did they know they weren't in any great danger? Oh, it was only for a wee while.

It's never ever on to do this or to throw paint at animals or attack them.

And no, it's not propoganda. It's people being violent.

claig Fri 10-Dec-10 11:48:30

SparkleSioree, I'm not condoning anything, I don't condone violence. I asked if there were any reports of any other cars being attacked last night in Regent Street. Was it only the one car that was attacked?

SparkleSoiree Fri 10-Dec-10 11:50:31

Claig the second part of my post was not directed at you, sorry it was directed at OP.

claig Fri 10-Dec-10 11:51:24

thanks SparkleSoiree

GetOrfMoiLand Fri 10-Dec-10 11:55:30

I totally agree with expat re the fact that it might be a conspiracy (of course it's not) and how terrifying it must have been to have been attacked like that.

Poor sods they looked utterly terrified in the photo I have seen. And how ferociously that car must have been attacked, presumably the car is bullet proof so they miust have battered it to have smashed the glass.

GetOrfMoiLand Fri 10-Dec-10 11:56:32

I think it is a great shame that the peaceful protest should have been taken over by this gang of violent pests.

Are they the students do you think or just a load of anarchists riding on the back of it?

SparkleSoiree Fri 10-Dec-10 12:03:36

GetOrfMoiLand I forgout about the car probably being bullet proof because even if it was not to crack car windows like that takes some impact.

If my parents experienced anything like that I would be looking for people to be charged.

expatinscotland Fri 10-Dec-10 12:10:49

Fuck, I'd have been afraid someone was looking to lob a bomb or Molotov cocktail in, or pull me out and kill me, any number of things.

It's preposterous to suggest they weren't in any danger.

And I'd feel just as livid if it were any innocent member of the public being attacked.

To suggest it was a conspiracy it a bit ridiculous, IMO.

BadgersPaws Fri 10-Dec-10 12:25:41

"To suggest it was a conspiracy it a bit ridiculous, IMO."

I can see the logic for those who say that it is a conspiracy.

The Government needs to paint the students in as bad a light as possible to take away what public support they have.

The Police have tried various approaches and been criticised for each of them, they could do with a justification for cracking down tougher next time.

Meanwhile they were in about the safest vehicle they could be and also surrounded by armed police should things turn really nasty.

So it does make a kind of sense.

But choosing between the people being involved being so incompetent as to send them down there or so conspiratorially organised so as to pull it off I'd vote for incompetence every time

Doyouthinktheysaurus Fri 10-Dec-10 12:33:20

Quite scary that given the nature of the car they were in, the protesters managed to crack the window.

And wtf were the armed police meant to do, everyone would be up in arms if they had even so much as raised their weaponshmm

I think the students (or the thug element) have shot themselves in the foot with this one. I think many people are beginning to lose sympathy with the cause given the violence and vandalism that has marked some of the protests.

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