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Laisser-faire attitude to moths?

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Marthanoooo Sun 05-May-13 21:06:18

We've had clothes moths since last summer (every few days I come across one or two and they gather in the moths traps over time). In autumn we did the thorough hoover, clean out, dry clean, and spray with moth toxin boot camp of the whole flat. We clean, hoover, dust a lot but did the spraying only once (because of our kids) And we still have moths... We never found where they are hiding either. Flat only five years old... But would it be good idea to fill any cracks between skirting board and wall with silicone etc?

Can we just ignore? or Is it time for a professional exterminator? (We have three small kids including a baby just starting to crawl confused. Best to do the exterminator and move out for a few days?

Any advice would be highly appreciated.

Shattereddreams Wed 08-May-13 21:44:42

Oh and much better 2nd quote! I guess if you are responsible, then you ought to deal with as can you imagine being given the bill for a new carpet? We cannot afford to replace at all, so the bare patches are hidden under furniture.

VerySmallSqueak Wed 08-May-13 22:00:48

My numbers have decreased dramatically what with a good hoover and DD's establishing a kill zone.

That is a much improved 2nd quote (maybe not a mountain lion this time but certainly a wild boar or two).

Shattered you must be gutted that you have them back sad

Shattereddreams Wed 08-May-13 22:06:44

I think they must be in local area. I mean how on earth do they get in in the first place??? Chicken and egg scenario. Once they are there, they must never leave. I wonder if they were dormant in the woodwork for years?

VerySmallSqueak Wed 08-May-13 22:51:28

I'm assuming that if mine aren't random little moths come in on the kindling,I've brought something into the house from a jumble/charity shop/ebay that has moth eggs.

Just hope it won't be bed bugs next.

Marthanoooo Thu 09-May-13 19:50:35

Shattered, i wish i had an answer for you!!
Very small. Yes charity shops to blame and MIL!

The below is what we are meant to follow. What do you think?

Moths can hide in most cracks and crevices and eat most of the fibres and fabrics around your home. They lay their eggs on their food so for this reason you need to wash or dry clean all of your clothes, bed sheets, towels etc before you spray.

They will only attack things in dark undisturbed places like cupboards, draws, wardrobes and underneath furniture.

A normal 40 degree wash is sufficient enough to kill the eggs.
· Any fibre or fabric that is too big to wash, you should spray i.e. curtains, carpets, rugs etc.
· Once dry you need to place them into black bin bags and tie them up so they are air tight. This prevents moths laying eggs on the fabrics and hiding back in with the stuff.
· The fibres and fabrics must be left in air tight bags for four weeks in total. You can take stuff out of the bags, but the bags must be tied up again, air tight. Any clothes that are put back into the air tight bags must be washed first.
· carry out 2 treatments 2 weeks apart using a residual spray. You must spray inside cupboards, wardrobes, draws, around furniture, walls and floors. You must not vacuum or wipe the spray away for 2 weeks after each of the sprays.
· In the 4 weeks that you have the spray down for, you may still see Moths. They will be coming out of places you cannot spray into and be walking over the residual spray.
· If possible turn the heating above 27°C to make the eggs hatch faster to speed up the treatment process.
· You would need to vacate the property after the fumigation for 5 hours.
· If they still appear 2 weeks after the 2nd visit please call back.

This comes from bypest the name of the other pest control. Might go with them. The above is full on though.

Marthanoooo Thu 09-May-13 20:16:21

Do you know if I can deep freeze clothes for a few days to kill moth eggs (instead of bringing everything to the drycleaner)...
or hang in the sun for a while instead of drycleaning? I guess the sun thing would work better in hotter countries?

VerySmallSqueak Thu 09-May-13 21:58:07

My goodness that rigamarole sounds like a right faff around.
It'd be interesting to see if all the companies say roughly the same.

I have heard from several sources that putting stuff in the freezer is effective at killing the eggs.

Shattereddreams Thu 09-May-13 22:50:25

Fuck me! Personally I think that is overkill. But link that back to my chicken and egg scenario. Which came first? The male moth flew into my house. There were no females here. The female crawled into my house and up the fucking stairs (as she can't fly) to lay her eggs. Hence I just don't understand how they multiply in the way they did.

How did they get in my house to begin with? I didn't have them for 6 years. Then last summer I did have them.

So DH reckons I imagined the moth the other day. That when we sprayed last year we eliminated the problem. I guess it's impossible to tell.

I think spend the £60-70 DIY version, spray the carpets. Spread the powder and fog the room. We have none in our clothes, wardrobes or blankets. Last summer I did wash and freeze my Wool blanket and fleece blankets. (No airing cupboard here)

I think they are in your carpet only. All that black bag stuff is extreme and I think is for when they have taken hold of your cashmere and wool in wardrobes.

Shattereddreams Thu 09-May-13 22:52:47

Oh and I think that by pest have said all that so they have a contractual get out Clause if all the moths are not eliminated. Did you fully heed every single piece of advice? No? Tough then live with the fuckers.

educatingarti Fri 10-May-13 10:31:38

dreams "DH exterminated himself" !!!!!! shock
A bid drastic surely!

Natasha1 Fri 10-May-13 21:15:45

Have you tried your local council? Ours deal with moths and the charge is a lot less than any of the quotes you have been given.

Natasha1 Fri 10-May-13 21:19:08

Just checked our local council website, it seems it is £56 for the first visit and £28 for further visits. They were also helpful with providing advice.


Marthanoooo Fri 10-May-13 21:47:04

Whoa! Thanks Natasha :-)

Actually my local council
only does
Pharaoh Ants (WTF???)

And they give "Advice and information on how to deal with pests such as pigeons, squirrels, garden ants, textile moths and carpet beetles."

I will surely phone them for a chat on Monday. However the borough across the road does moths pest control for residents. I will phone those too. But I guess we don't qualify..

Minimammoth Fri 10-May-13 21:57:46

I have found the Lakeland spray the best one. And powder to brush into carpets too.

Shattereddreams Sat 11-May-13 06:56:43

Our council don't give a crap either. Lucky Natasha

Natasha1 Sat 11-May-13 07:46:43

Maybe ring them just to check, our council don't list moths on their website and when I rang the call centre said they didn't think they dealt with them. When I got to speak to one of the pest controllers they confirmed that they did.

In the end we dealt with ours ourselves but did end up ripping up all our carpets and not replacing them for over 6 months to try to be sure they had all gone. We have now got non wool carpets. It was a complete nightmare and cost us £1000's which for now is on interest free credit cards!!!

We think ours started a few years ago when we got a really cheap wool mix carpet put through most of the house, it was cheap as chips but was the leftovers of a roll- we think it had been left lying around for ages in a dark warehouse.

Sleepyfergus Sat 11-May-13 14:58:43

Excuse me for barging in the thread, but how do you know what type of moth you have? I've seen about 8 over the last couple of weeks. They're light-mid brown and about 8mm long. Mostly in our bathroom and up high at mirror height iykwim. I've looked at images on google but not really sure. Am freaking out reading this thread!

Shattereddreams Sat 11-May-13 17:30:57

Sounds most feasible this is carpet moth Sleepy. Welcome aboard btw.

I have them and no google search has provided me an image that looks like mine. Sort of silvery brown. Slow flying unless you try to swat them.

Get spring cleaning, Hoover under everything and all the nooks and cracks really well. Keep doing this daily or as much as you can, see if they keep coming.

Marthanoooo Sun 12-May-13 16:15:27

Sleepy - don't panic!

Have a look at both food and clothes moths and compare. I think the food ones are much darker. And if. I had those I'd just be chucking out my packs of cereals and cornflour etc.

Well, we are decluttering. And washing clothes that we store. And repackaging in airtight bin bags. Double packed. And then see. Someone is going to spray the flat next week!!

Shattered how's your moth count?

I haven't seen them in a couple of days. Actually am off now to check on the nest.. Oh yeah, we haven't removed that yet :-)

Marthanoooo Sun 12-May-13 16:16:52

There's also the case spinning moth mentioned upthread.... But I guess. If you have them you'll see the cases..

Well, for us it was easy to identify the moths. Definitely common clothes moth.

Sleepyfergus Sun 12-May-13 18:20:45

Ill need to do some more google image surfing later on after kids are in bed. The ironic thing is we are selling our house at the moment, so I have never hoovered so much in my life. More so in the last few weeks then in the whole time I've been here. <slattern>

Marthanoo love your name btw. Although didn't love it so much when it was the book of choice for weeks on end. It nearly ended up being frisbee-ing out the window!

Marthanoooo Sun 12-May-13 19:32:59

Haha, yes! Weeks on end..
( and Lazy choice of username)

Good luck with finding your type of moth..

Shattereddreams Sun 12-May-13 21:08:47

Not seen any - long may it last

unlucky83 Sun 12-May-13 21:33:29

I had carpet beetles - very similar rid of clutter and vac bagged everything ...tumble drying apparently kills the eggs etc dry tumbled and into a vac bags anything that isn't used on a weekly basis or stored in underbed plastic containers with lids...
I found some in a spare bit of rolled up off cut carpet - (I'd always assumed was man made fibre)-problem is they could be anywhere...under floors in workmen debris, in loft etc etc
I found clothes moths larva when I broke up our old (inherited with the house) sofa to pieces to get rid of...they were in the bottom seam -couldn't have seen them unless you ripped the bottom off ...
I see the odd moth and kill it when I do (haven't seen a carpet beetle or larva for a year or so now -touch wood finally got rid of them -took years)
I steam my carpets at least every year now (more often when we had a real problem) ...paying particular attention to the skirting board join...don't know if it works - logic tells me it should...and it makes me feel better...
If you steam your carpets and all your clothes are stored safely away- they can't do any damage can they????

Gingefringe Mon 13-May-13 14:41:50

We've had moths for years and found they were in the hall carpet which we replaced last year and their numbers have reduced dramatically this year.

We've also been using these sticky moth boxes which trap the males and stops them breeding. We have a sticky box in each room and replace twice a year. You need to keep vigilant with the little buggers.

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