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## Help Year 9 maths

(25 Posts)DS has got stuck on this maths Question. For the first time I realise that I don't know how to help him! Any help so we can both work out how to do it gratefully received . Obviously I will ask DS to ask teacher but knowing him he probably won't get around to asking - and I'm curious too ! Thanks in advance .

Solve the equation :

3 4 5x

_ = _____________

x+3 x-3 x squared - 9

Sorry don't know how to do the x squared symbol ! Hope the question is clear . Thanks

Whoops sorry the question has not posted clearly - I will try and set it out properly !

Take a photo

Yes new to mumsnet so my first post but couldn't figure out how to that - I'm having a quick look now

I think I'm being pretty dim here but I just can't seem to work out how you post a photo on this particular thread. I will be back when I've worked it out! If anyone would like to enlighten me in the meantime I would be very grateful !

Can you click the paperclip/attach icon at the bottom and then choose camera option to take a photo?

Thanks Maybe it doesn't work for a mobile - I just can't see an attach icon or paper clip ! I feel that attaching a photo must be very easy to do and I'm just not seeing it! Oh dear ....

Are you using the app or the mobile website?

Mobile .

Under the box you are typing in, click the paper clip icon.

Sorry, this is probably a bit late but in case it's any help, I think you multiply each item in the equation by (x+3)(x-3). So you can then do a bit of cancelling out and a much simpler bit of algebra to solve drops out. (Expanding out the brackets of (x+3)(x-3) gives x^2 -9 so that cancels out too on the right hand side.) Does that make sense? I can attempt a slightly more coherent explanation if needed - I'm very rusty!

Just realised the (2) is missed off on the right hand side, but the arrow shows where it is....

Oh yes - I can see that now! Thank you very much **Searching** for your reply that does make sense

yes, agree, but I'd reduce the final answer to -7/2

(You can then check it by substitution, and both sides work out to -70/13 )

And thank you **mines** too - since I've got -3.5 from the hint given by Searching so that your workings confirms I've understood . I'm way too rusty - My last maths lesson was in 1984!

Thank you all !

Okay, so fractions you always need to do the same to top and bottom & you need a common denominator at the bottom to simplify the two on the left hand side.

So you get:

3(x-3)/(x+3)(x-3) - 4(x+3)/(x+3)(x-3) = 5x / x^2 -9

Then multiply that all out gives you

3x-9/ x^2 -9 - 4x +12/x^2 -9 = 5x/x^2 -9

Now because x^2 -9 is at the bottom of all of the fractions you can multiply everything by x^2 -9 to be left with:

3x - 9 - 4x -12 = 5x

(Note that it becomes -12 because you are subtracting (4x + 12)

Collect like terms:

-x -21 = 5x

Add x to both sides

-21 = 6x

Divide by 6:

-3.5 = x

Tbh if your DS can’t work it out you shouldn’t be doing it for him, as it will just mean his teacher assumes he can do the sum. Also, isn’t that rather simple for Y9?

Maybe it is Fluffy. I really wouldn't know - tbh he probably wasn't focussing since it was the holidays. He's normally ok at maths and it's the first time he's actually asked me about something! And it bugged me that I couldn't remember how to do it.

And agreed Fluffy if it were homework to be handed in . But it was just some practice revision questions in advance of a test. So it won't be marked or anything .

*isn’t that rather simple for Y9?*

No.

Fluffy I thought the OP was more interested in *how* To do it as opposed to the answer so that she can answer it and maybe use the same technique on the next question.

As for it being simple for year 9? Not really. I’ve worked with some y9 students who barely knew there times tables right through to those who would have whizzed through this without a second thought. Maths in particular is a subject that everyone has to approach at their own speed, hence the importance of maths sets ASAP in secondary.

None of my Yr 11 students (I'm a tutor) spot D.O.T.S. questions - I really have to drum it into them to look out for [square number] - [square number]. And all but the most mathematically able ask for help with algebraic fractions even if it isn't a sneaky D.O.T.S. question. So no, definitely not easy for Yr 9!

I was a maths tutor & TA in a secondary maths department & I still don’t really get what DOTS means but I do know how to work them out. I vaguely remember the lesson we were taught it where my teacher kept going on about it being a shortcut. It just made more sense to me to do the math!

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