Looking for information on what your HE dc did age 16+ please.(11 Posts)
If that makes sense?! (better not let the LA see my appalling grammar )
After a discussion with PIL this weekend I am looking for ammunition stories about how children who have been home educated progress age 16 +.
PIL assumed that dd1 will be going back to school soon as she is 'much happier'
They said that she won't cope with work/ college etc if she hasn't been to school and that she will struggle to fit in.
So, I want to --shut them up-- reassure them that this will not be the case.
Anyone have a dc who is past the required age for HE? If so, i would love to know what they chose to do afterwards.
Oooooh can I listen in, I want to know too!
DS is only 7 but very keen on science/maths and if at school would very likely end up with armfuls of certificates and then university - He is showing an interest in being a uni professor atm!
So how to apply for uni without heaps of certificates interests me.....
Hi Yurtgirl, course you can listen in
I think that everyone is out enjoying the sunshine today, though -it's really quiet on here.
I have said all of this elsewhere in this home ed section, so if you have read this before I apologise.
Our children left school aged 13, 11 and 8. All had dyslexia/dysgraphia/dyspraxia to different degrees.
None of it had been recognised by the school before the diagnoses, none of it was supported by the schools afterwards.
Just before our eldest left, one teacher told me that 'if he worked very very hard, he might achieve GCSEs Grade D'
Our middle child's difficulties were increasingly frustrating her as the school simply didn't take them into account. She admits now she was falling in with the wrong crowd in the bottom classes.
Our youngest was diagnosed as having very severe dyslexia. She couldn't read or spell even her own name when she left school.
We followed a totally autonomous home based education, with the children following their own interests, with no formal work at all.
All three ended up following very different educational paths.
The only things in common is that we did lots of camping at home ed camps and gatherings, every summer. Then as the children got old enough they started to travel and stay with home ed families around the country and their friends started to come and stay here.
Hence I now know loads and loads of home educated and formerly home educated young people now aged between 15 and 24.
I have been thinking about this as I have been asked a similar question just recently.
Every single one of them is successfully employed/at college/university/self employed.
Our eldest went to FE college on one day a week, post 16 and did 2 GCSEs. He achieved Grade Bs
Then he used those two GCSES and interview to go onto another FE college and did A levels. He achieved Grade Bs.
At both colleges the tutors commented that he fitted in very well both academically and socially.
He works locally now, in a job he enjoys. He has been saving as he intends to go on to Uni, coming out with less debt than his schooled peers.
Our middle child took a totally different path. She chose not to do formal qualifications and instead followed her passions in her education.
By 18 she had:
*Sailed around the country for two long summers helping to crew a boat and look after three small children
*Co-launched a new dyslexia charity with a well know American Dyslexia expert.
*Worked for a new WAP mobile phone internet company and developed mobile internet sites for one or two very well known names as well as some smaller concerns.
*Worked as a part-time sales assistant, running a small shop, in the hours she was there.
*Helped run workshops for women who were victims of domestic violence.
Aged 18 she was taken on by a well known national organisation, to work from them in a different city to where we live. Five of the managers present at the interview weekend recommended her appointment.
She now lives and works in a city she loves. She found and organised a house to share and found four friends to join her.
Our youngest caused me most angst as she was so severely dyslexic.
When she first left school we tried every reading scheme available, to help her and all left her a hysterical wreck. It was awful.
Eventually we listened to autonomous home ed peers and stopped trying to get her to read. Instead we concentrated on following her interests and allowed her education to run ahead whilst allowing her reading and spelling to catch up in it's own time.
She finally began to 'get' reading aged 13.
She reads and spells well now. The first book she read was Oscar Wilde's 'Picture of Dorian Grey'-after another home ed friend recommended it.
She started a OU course aged 15 and 'achieved all of the outcomes' and was said to be studying at degree entry level.
She is a musician and travels the country playing live gigs with the (formerly home educated) lads in the band.
On Saturday they were playing live at The HUB Festival in Liverpool-she says the stage was as big as the one at Glastonbury! Then yesterday they played at Hungry Pigeon FestivalShe has just arrived home (we live in Worcs) she says the crowds were great, very lively and kept shouting for 'more'.
The band will disband in September as the boys are all set for university (they all went to FE college at 16)-but don't worry if you know her band they intend to reunite at HesFes each year!
The choices before her now she is at the end of compulsory schooling age, were:
*to go to FE college
*do more OU courses and then use them as evidence that she can study to an appropriate level on application to 'brick and mortar' universities
*complete her whole degree through the OU.
All of these options have been taken up successfully by many of the formerly home ed young people we know.
However she has now been accepted by at least two FE colleges, to do a National BTEC-which is apparently equivalent to three A levels and looks set to go in that direction.
She has had a social life that is the envy of her schooled peers and cousins.
She is confident, independent, well educated and happy (as are her siblings and home ed peers.
The same cannot be said of the other children with such severe SEN, that she left behind in the remedial classes at school.
Hi, I'm afraid I won't give you much ammunition, as DS is going to go back to school in the Autumn to do his Highers (equivalent of AS levels I think).
But before we settled on school as the easiest option, we also looked into him going to FE college to do Highers or a music qualification there. I don't think there would have been any problem in a 16yo going straight from HE into a college course. Obviously there is a change if you've been autonomous, as they will have to get used to having a timetable and deadlines for completing pieces of work, but if she was motivated by the course then I don't see any reason for that to be a struggle.
A college environment would probably actually be easier than going back into the school environment - so many school rules etc are based on the assumption that the children don't really want to be there, and have to be checked up on to make sure they turn up and do the required work. College starts from the assumption that people are there by choice and want to do the course they are on, so they are trusted to motivate themselves far more. For anyone used to HE that would probably be a more natural environment to be in.
As to not "fitting in" at college or work - I'm not sure what she means really. Once you get out of school, you meet a much wider range of people, with a wider range of experience of life, and if all you've ever known is school then it can come as quite a shock. Assuming she's not been locked in a cupboard, she's probably got far more experience of meeting people with different backgrounds than a schooled child her age.
DP was HEd for nearly al of what would have been his 'school life'. He did GCSEs at 16/17 (a year later than normal) at an FE college, some as night classes. He definitely didn't get the grades he would have if he had been at 'normal' school, but they were good enoough to allow him to do A-levels, after which he took a year out to go travelling. That meant he had his A-level grades to apply to university with (rather than just GCSEs and predicted A level grades) and got into a good university, etc. I think the only qualification-related regret he has is that he thought he was no good at Maths at GCSE, because the teaching was not very good, and now he thinks he would actually have had no trouble doing A-level Maths.
Not sue if that helps, but you wanted to hear stories of what people did, so here's a story
Thanks to everyone who replied. There's a really good mix of experiences there -and a lot to be proud of.
I also agree that children who have been HEdded come into contact with a wider range of people and can gain invaluable experience in this area.
Hi siblingrivalry, I'm a lecturer for the open university and I have an adult student in one of my groups who was HEd all her life. She has no qualifications but she has worked her way into a good job (health service I think). She stands out from the other students for the way she thinks and her enthusiasm - she's full of original ideas and very motivated. I'm thinking of HEdding my three children and she's a good example for me. The only thing is that she feels that her lack of qualifications have held her back so I'll probably think about school / college when mine are GCSE age (hoping they will have been scrapped by then).
The 'not fitting in' thing is a load of rubbish - the HE children I have met are confident and sociable, who wants to 'fit in' anyway? I'm interested to see what my children will become when they are allowed to be themselves.
The OU is a great way to get qualifications. We know several home ed youngsters personally who have started doing qualifications with them at around 13 years old-which would be one way round the problems that your student mentioned lazylion.
Other parents get together on the email support list for home edders looking to do qualifications
It is open to all home educating families
And I know that the ISC is in talks with two of the home education organisations about independent schools offering places for external candidates to sit exams.
So hopefully when your children get to that age there will be lots of choices.
"I'm interested to see what my children will become when they are allowed to be themselves." Thanks Lazylion I will remember those words when I have my occasional worries about my HE'd 5 yr old 'fitting in.'
I'm not HEing kids, but myself and my siblings are/were all home-educated.
This is what we've done.
Me - GCSEs and A-Levels through NEC (distance learning), grades A*-C. College at age 17 to do HNC Childcare and Education, then HND Acting and Performance. Now working as an actor, have done a couple of OU courses but planning to do BA Hons Creative Arts with the OCA.
Sister 1 - went to school for two years to do S-Grades and Highers, then tried a variety of college courses before settling on a degree in business, is about to start fourth year uni.
Brother 1 - went to college at 16 with no qualifications, became the youngest HND student in Scotland when he graduated in Electrical Engineering. Went to SAE Institute to train as a sound engineer, and is now sourcing freelance work aged 19.
Sister 2 - just finishing A-Levels done through the NEC, is considering a year out to work and then plans to go to college, possibly to study childcare/psychology/social work or media.
Brothers 2 & 3 - studying for GCSEs through correspondence courses - they're only 12 and 14, so plenty of time to decide what they want to do!
I know many people who have taken lots of different routes through exams/no exams, post 16 choices, etc. - never heard of anyone with any problems or limitations caused by home-education.
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