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(23 Posts)
Ste1920 Tue 29-Nov-16 21:12:14

Hi can anyone tell me if I can take my grandson out of a accademy too home educate

PhilODox Tue 29-Nov-16 21:28:27

Only if you have parental responsibility.

gillybeanz Tue 29-Nov-16 21:30:27

If you are responsible for the child
Does he live with you and are you the responsible carer for him?
If not there's little you can do apart from suggest it to the person who is.

MrsNuckyThompson Tue 29-Nov-16 21:39:28

Is this a wind up? You're planning to home educate with that spelling?!?

gillybeanz Tue 29-Nov-16 21:42:38

O hello, here we go.
First comment from somebody with no idea how H.ed works. grin

OP, does your dgs live with you?
If you can give more details people can advise better.

LineyReborn Tue 29-Nov-16 21:45:46

Same question: do you have parental responsibility?

Ste1920 Tue 29-Nov-16 22:01:45

Sorry for spelling mistakes he does live with me I am carer

LineyReborn Tue 29-Nov-16 22:05:32

I can't really advise you with such little information to go on, to be honest.

gillybeanz Tue 29-Nov-16 22:15:44

What has prompted you to ask, is he very unhappy or do you think he'd just be better off?
I really mean is it because school aren't meeting his needs?

Ste1920 Tue 29-Nov-16 22:17:11

He is my grandson we have parental rights he is in year 7 been very unhappy in school since primary gets very anxious emotional vomiting his mother was a heroin addict it all boils down to separation he only has me and hes nanna he thinks if he goes to school something will happen to us leaving him no where he has missed so much school we are been threatened with court so I have put a letter in to the principal to deregister

Ste1920 Tue 29-Nov-16 22:19:14

I think he will benefit from home education

gillybeanz Tue 29-Nov-16 22:22:44

Oh the poor boy, and I don't blame you at all.
I hope that it brings him the security he needs atm.
You sound like such a caring person and I bet it's so hard for you, my heart goes out to you all thanks
H.ed is absolutely brilliant for children who don't fit the mould for one reason or another, and there are so many reasons people choose this path for their children.

Ste1920 Tue 29-Nov-16 22:28:32

Thanks very much i hope they don't delay procedures in think he will benefit from he'd i just need to research more

gillybeanz Tue 29-Nov-16 22:36:16

The only thing you need to do is write a letter to school, saying you want to deregister dgs from x date and he will be removed from the register.
The school are supposed by law to inform the LA you have deregistered (ours at the time, didn't) and the LA will get in touch with you.
It is fine to say that dgs is not going to have formal education while he deschools, if you want to take this approach.
You should respond when/if they get in touch, but you don't have to receive visits, if you don't want to and they offer.

Ste1920 Tue 29-Nov-16 22:42:10

Thanks very much for your help i really appreciate it ☺☺

LineyReborn Wed 30-Nov-16 04:19:17

OP have you looked at any of the Home Ed websites which are out there? Also there may be a Home Ed group in your area which may have a Facebook page.

SuffolkingGrand Wed 30-Nov-16 05:30:33

Perhaps he needs more emotional and social support in school itself to build his confidence about being there. Surely taking him out of that environment isn't necessarily going to help him build up self esteem. Will you really be able to provide him with a suitable education at home to replace that which he would be getting at school?

SuffolkingGrand Wed 30-Nov-16 05:36:07

P.S. Is removing a child from school to home educate them really a realistic way to avoid being sanctioned for unauthorised or extensive absences? Not entirely sure that taking a kid out of school and denying them the education and support that they're currently getting (or meant to be getting there) is necessarily the solution for a child who misses his mum and is worried about losing/missing his gparebts, IMHO.

Saracen Wed 30-Nov-16 07:49:35

Suffolking, do you have any experience of home education?

OP, home ed can be a great way to give a child the security he needs and is sometimes recommended by professionals in such cases. If you feel it would benefit your grandson then you are the best person to judge that. Don't let anyone second-guess you. You are the one who knows and loves him best. It doesn't have to be a permanent arrangement. There's nothing to stop you enrolling him in school at any later point if you decide home ed isn't working out as you'd hoped, or if home ed helps him recover his confidence and then he wants to go back to school in a year or two. But you may well find it is a great long-term solution.

Now that you have put the dereg letter in, he does not have to return to school again. You don't need anyone's consent. School cannot delay in removing his name from the register. No further unauthorised absences will go down against him.

As for where you stand legally, in principle you could be prosecuted for the past offences of failing to ensure his attendance at school. However, many LAs recognise there is no point in prosecuting in such a situation because it doesn't help matters at this stage. The motivation to prosecute is to try to ensure children get an education. But your grandson now is receiving a full-time education, because he is being home educated.

Saracen Wed 30-Nov-16 07:59:45

It's usually recommended that you start off with a break from any enforced academic work to give the child a chance to recover, and for your family to get your heads around a new way of learning. I suggest you spend some time doing the things he loves, whether academic or not, while he lets go of the stress caused by enforced separation from you and the fear of being separated. I think you'll see a change in him now he knows he won't be made to go to school.

Meanwhile, you can look around at the many ways home education can be done and think about how you might like to approach it. It is likely to take a while for you to find your feet. That's okay. There is no hurry. Typically, families experiment to find what works for them. It is totally fine to change tack as you go along and learn what works best. As Liney suggested, you might like to get in touch with local home ed families for support and to find out about opportunities in your area.

There are many reasons for people to home educate. Anxiety related to school attendance is not uncommon, so if you go to home ed groups you are likely to meet some other kids who are being HE for similar reasons to your DGS.

Good luck with it! I hope he is feeling more relaxed soon.

Ste1920 Wed 30-Nov-16 08:22:01

Thanks ever so much for all your support in hope he starts to relax soon he has been through so much just getting him to school in will have a look for local home education groups and let you know how we get on thanks a million guys

ommmward Wed 30-Nov-16 16:01:35

you'll find local groups on facebook. Search for your county + home ed (or home education), your nearest big city with home ed (or education) etc.

THat's usually the starting point for people finding their feet smile

PhilODox Thu 01-Dec-16 09:03:52

Ste- does he get any support from SS or CAMHS? They might be able to help with the anxiety?
I am not a huge advocate for HE, but I have met some amazing young people that were HEd, because that was right for them. They were very involved in the HE groups in their area, but they were such confident young people, able to speak with people of all ages, knowledgeable on a whole range of things, grounded, happy, and secure. We have to accept that whilst the 'system' tries its best, it just cannot be right for 100% of children.
Good luck, I hope your DGS can blossom now thanks

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