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Wondering about those with medic children from past threads(57 Posts)
Just that really. Mine has not yet gone down with the virus, although colleagues have and one friend is currently self-isolating as a flatmate has it.
I have two DC in busy London hospitals and neither can understand why they don't yet have the virus since they're dealing with coronavirus patients and haven't had adequate PPE.
That said, both seem perfectly cheery.
@decorhate @lessstressy @mumsneedwine @iabvvu @nexttime4 @needmoresleep @duchesse @wehaveonlyjustbegun
interested in how it's affecting those who are still students too
@alreadytaken Hi. My DD has been home for 4 weeks now as all Uni teaching went on line. She's studying hard for a massive exam in June (she thinks) covering all this years work, rather than 6 smaller exams. OSCEs postponed until autumn, as is the dreaded anatomy spotter. Will be open book but timed. Know some Unis not bothering with 2nd year exams and just passed everyone but this year forms part of her integrated degree so suppose they have to do something. She will then go back to care home to work, but has to tell Uni so they can risk assess - they are really looking out for them. I am happy to admit I cried when I watched the Notts medics graduate on the One show last week. My DD knows some of them and my thoughts were that's my baby in 3 years. Hope everyone is safe and well.
@alreadytaken thanks for checking in! I was in final year so have been fast tracked and graduated a few months early, probably will be starting in my local hospital within the next couple of weeks. All very scary but quite exciting too and much better than sitting around waiting until August. Hoping to get accommodation so I can isolate from my family, I'd hate to bring anything home and make them ill.
Hope everyone else is ok
Mine’s just about to start work as a doctor, 3 1/2 months before normal starting time.
@goodbyestranger - given that many who get it have few or no symptoms, maybe they have!
I think I've had it - i never gets fevers but had some really prolonged ones, as did my wife and baby. Five of my colleagues who i regularly work with have also had positive tests, and some others have been ill. Fortunately, none seriously so far.
I'm sure I missed lots of people, my memory is going. Feel sorry for those who have missed out on graduation and possibly on electives. This could be a real baptism by fire. Nexttime I hope if you've had it you also developed some immunity.
goodbye I seem to have missed your second one did they graduate this year and early or are they still a student?
The second DC is one who changed direction alreadytaken - you're absolutely correct about a baptism of fire.
Also feel for those missing electives.
Dd did an intercalation year so has another year to go. But lots of her friends are now finished & will be in hospitals shortly.
Her year are still not certain about what is happening. Latest is that they will go back mid July to do the placements that should be starting next week. But they were due to do electives over the summer & uni are also indicating they must still do these but before the July placements. This seems unreasonable to Dd - the electives are arranged months in advance & hers has said they can’t give her an earlier slot. Most clinical settings won’t want unnecessary people getting in the way & using PPE when no doubt they will still be very busy with Covid cases.
most people doing electives go abroad and I cant see how they could do that or why the NHS would allow it at the moment. Perhaps they are all meant to do their electives in the Nightingales!
So goodbye does this mean one did graduate medicine? It's an area I know little about. You have reminded me to check on one person I know who did go down that route and is now probably in a hotspot.
@alreadytaken Yes any electives abroad were cancelled a long time ago. Dd was doing hers in the UK. But either way, it will be very difficult to arrange alternatives. They may have to do some sort of research project instead.
the idea of electives is to experience a different health care system. Our current health care system looks very different to normal anyway.
Personally I'd like to see students either in the Nightingales or involved in the task of assessing things like whether vitamin D status is correlated with outcome.
As long as they can provide PPE. I wouldn’t count on that right now. I don’t think it can be obligatory to go abroad for an elective. Otherwise it would discriminate against less well off students. Dd was going to do one here but in a setting she would not experience in a placement. She was against going abroad as she felt that many of those experiences were of limited value in terms of learning & more of a jolly.
Dd’s uni says about the electives: This elective is about gaining wider clinical experience or carrying out a specific project.
DS intercalated too, and is supposed to arrange his own elective now before going back in July to start 5th year
Struggling to find an elective locally, the NHS is understandably not prioritising this. He's sad about missing out on his elective abroad , South American rural outreach and they had fundraiserd for equipment do being
Of course it cant be compulsory to go abroad but most do and if they dont stay on for a holiday I'm not convinced it is always a lot more expensive. Some students get grants and if you are in an indian village and washing out of a bucket accommodation and food are pretty cheap. Some get clinical experience they would not get here, some sun themselves in the Caribbean.
Probably more PPE in the nightingales then anywhere else right now as they dont have many patients.
Hi @Carriemac Good to “see” you again (ours are in the same place). Dd did not come home at the start of the lockdown so is now staying put for the foreseeable. She is not impressed about having to do an elective right now - if they are not able to accommodate placements why would they think clinical electives are feasible? She is thinking of doing a research project instead but is also on a waiting list for an earlier slot for the elective she was due to do in August.
hi @decorhate hope your DD is ok, I bet they know each other in RL? DS is getting a call this afternoon re a potential placement, but it will be an audit done from home for the moment if it works out. I have not been impressed by the medical school, its been a bit of a shambles and they are all a little fed up I think, although selfishly I'm glad DS is not on the wards he has an auto immune disorder which I think may make him more cover susceptible.
Hi @Carriemac Yes I am in no rush for Dd to go on the wards, at least until the PPE situation improves. She has got a job in an NHS call centre at the moment so is not at too much risk.
Hello all 👋🏼
Great to hear how everyone’s DC is doing. Have missed this! Where do we congregate after their graduations, and into jobs? Serious question, is there a place for kids’ jobs threads?!
DS did his finals this last week online, at home. Feels they went fine, TG. At least he has a chance to chill for now. Expecting results early May, and an online graduation soon after. He should have been on his elective, followed by a two week family holiday, then a chill period, and first job in August. As it is, they’ve asked them to start work early, but not told them exactly what or where, which we feel is worrying. He’s very keen to start work and help out, but not so keen on going straight into Coronaville!
On a lighter note, we have two adult kids home, and had forgotten how much they eat!
My DS is in year 4 and is on a huge list of students waiting to be called up. He is keen to help wherever he can. In the meantime I am enjoying this unexpected time with him till he goes back. Unfortunately the elective in Colombia is cancelled but PBL and tutoring continues over Zoom.