Trans parents

(36 Posts)
Bakeo Thu 31-Oct-19 18:29:37

MNHQ you are failing those of us with trans children. I don't want to go anywhere else, I've been here for a decade. I appreciate both sides of the argument but this is Mumsnet not feministnet.

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PixieDustt Thu 31-Oct-19 18:32:02

Were you meant to send this to MNHQ?

MrsMaiselsMuff Thu 31-Oct-19 18:35:23

Wrong place to post it Bakeo, but you're not wrong in what you say. MN has gained a terrible reputation for transphobia (though I do believe the MN team are doing their best to resolve it).

Moominfan Thu 31-Oct-19 18:40:56

Not a parent but a sibling. There's a trans widow thread that's thriving. I'm sure a trans parent thread could do well x

Wheat2Harvest Thu 31-Oct-19 18:50:25

So those of us who don't want men in women's changing rooms and toilets are 'transphobic'? I'm not a feminist, by the way - I just wouldn't want my children (if they were still young) encountering penises and the possibility that a man is not trans at all but is taking advantage of current legislation for nefarious purposes.

What is wrong with not wanting men in these places if they 'identify' as women but haven't had the surgery? Many of them don't want to use the changing rooms and toilets put aside for 'trans' - they insist on using the women's facilities.

Are we not allowed to have a view that is at odds with yours?

HugoSpritz Thu 31-Oct-19 19:16:44

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Quetiapina Thu 31-Oct-19 19:33:49

I don't see that wheat2harvest has said anything transphobic. People are allowed opinions.


wilma12 Thu 31-Oct-19 19:37:43

Quetiapina. Yes, people are allowed opinions. And Wheat2Harvest's opinion was transphobic. Are you saying that racists aren't racist, just having a different opinion to non-racists?

Moominfan Thu 31-Oct-19 19:42:37

I don't think any of what wheatharvest said was transphobic but I'm guessing this is what the op isn't wanting to discuss

NewNameGuy Thu 31-Oct-19 19:45:29

Hugo I think you've made your drinking of the cool aid pretty clear here.

I'm a bit tired of seeing teams stuff everywhere online but it's necessary until the country/ world snaps out of this madness

AnxiousandExcited Thu 31-Oct-19 20:23:09

I guess if someone would start a thread about the challenges of being a trans parent, and not just against transphobia, it might work.

PixieDustt Thu 31-Oct-19 20:50:10

@Wheat2Harvest I agree and that certainly doesn't make me transphobic. In fact I couldn't put it better myself.
Why should we be silenced all the time because we have an opinion which clearly stands for nothing anymore.

Gingerkittykat Thu 31-Oct-19 21:00:24

People on the feminist boards are concerned about the transing of children, the health effects of puberty blockers and then making kids sterile with cross sex hormones.

They are also concerned about Mermaids charity.

There is at least one parent of a trans child who posts regularly on the feminist boards who is deeply concerned about their child. My own child identified as non binary for a while but luckily had no intention of hormones or surgery.

Mumsnet is a lot more than parenting, I suppose you want to shut down the litter tray board because it's not catsnet, or is it just people who you don't agree with that you want to silence?

ArtieFufkinPolymerRecords Thu 31-Oct-19 23:18:27

Is there a reason this was put on the Higher Education board, because you haven't asked about anything to do with it?

ErrolTheDragon Fri 01-Nov-19 00:24:15

HE board seems a bit random...

Maybe the LGBT children board might be what you want (I don't know, it's not somewhere I have cause to go)

ErrolTheDragon Fri 01-Nov-19 00:28:24

* There is at least one parent of a trans child who posts regularly on the feminist boards who is deeply concerned about their child.*

There are quite a few. It seems like for them it's not so much that they don't want to go anywhere else, it's that there's nowhere else they can go. Other platforms don't seem to 'allow both side sides of the argument'.

MrsTerryPratchett Fri 01-Nov-19 00:31:04

Is there a reason this was put on the Higher Education board, because you haven't asked about anything to do with it?

Been here a decade, doesn't know how to post? hmm

Whatwouldbigfatfannydo Fri 01-Nov-19 00:32:33

I hope you've no intention of lying that they can change sex, medicating your child, failing to protect them from effectively being sterilised or advocating for the lifelong trauma caused by the 'transition' process advocated by toxic organisations like Stonewall or Mermaids.
Mumsnet would be failing children by removing the discussion about this abuse.

slipperywhensparticus Fri 01-Nov-19 00:36:01

I do not wish sex offenders to gain access to vulnerable people by pretending to be trans I do not wish vulnerable women put away from safe spaces because they are better than natel women that's just the start of things

It's not transphobic its perfectly reasonable to not want that and many trans REAL trans who want the surgery who GET the surgery understand

Ereshkigal Fri 01-Nov-19 00:39:31

Wheat2Harvest - in answer to your question - yes you are indeed transphobic.

Then the term is utterly meaningless. Well done 👍🏻

Birdsfoottrefoil Fri 01-Nov-19 01:02:01

It is transphobic to not want my 12 year old daughter to get changed in a communal changing room alone with a man who may have done nothing to change his appearance as that man may or may not be transgender and it is transphobic to ask.

My daughter is a bigot if she expresses concern at getting undressed in front of this man

My daughter must be taught that if a man wishes to get undressed in a changing room with her, including exposing his penis, then she is not allowed any boundaries and must get undressed in front of him

If anyone suggests that this opens the door to abuse then you are being transphobic. And anyway men will always abuse women and girls.

OneHanded Fri 01-Nov-19 01:03:23

This thread is so needed, thank you!

Birdsfoottrefoil Fri 01-Nov-19 01:06:37

onehanded can you confirm that you agree with my post?

Coyoacan Fri 01-Nov-19 04:02:30

I'm still waiting to see what the OP wants to talk about? Do you have any specific worry or concern, OP. that you cannot post in the LGBT parents forum?

slipperywhensparticus Fri 01-Nov-19 07:15:43

Drop and run hoping for a load of transphobic comments unfortunately it's the wrong board

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