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Higher Education Achievement Report what a terrible idea

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Figmentofmyimagination Mon 03-Nov-14 17:59:26

Under plans supported by (usually sensible) Tristram Hunt, this proposal will mean that instead of just having a first, 2:1, 2:2 or 3rd to show for their three years at university, future students will receive a portfolio report recording all the "voluntary" societies, positions of responsibility, charitable works, essay competitions, etc etc etc the student notched up while at university, to better aid employers in assessing their employability. Aaargh.

JeanneDeMontbaston Mon 03-Nov-14 18:11:26

Wow. Well, that does sound a truly shit idea.

Isn't that what a CV is for?

webwiz Mon 03-Nov-14 18:18:52

So who is supposed to put the report together? Surely being able to sensibly put this information on a cv aids employers anywayconfused

Figmentofmyimagination Mon 03-Nov-14 18:23:47

It's compiled by the university, so presumably there will have to be regular inputting by students, monitoring, verification etc a sort of nationwide D of E. I am guessing these people have never heard of intrinsic motivation. And if you can't measure it, it's obviously not worth doing.

Figmentofmyimagination Mon 03-Nov-14 18:28:42

www.hear.ac.uk

Here. You can read all about it. I hadn't realised quite how well established it seems to be.

hopelessadventure Mon 03-Nov-14 18:32:45

It's already in operation. I have recently had an email from them (3rd year student) to activate mine and I know it was the same for last year's graduates.

hopelessadventure Mon 03-Nov-14 18:37:11

It's supported (or at least mine is) by a company called Gradintel and it works to connect graduates with employers who can advertise on it and search for particular graduates, although I haven't finished activating mine and read through it properly, so I could be wrong.

Dayshiftdoris Mon 03-Nov-14 18:48:52

I already have a certificate for the 120 hours voluntary work I did last academic year and the tracking of it this year is more detailed / robust.

senua Mon 03-Nov-14 20:00:02

"The HEAR can also be seen as a symbolic and practical expression of the UK’s student-centred and quality-focussed higher education culture."

That sounds fabulous! hmm
It sounds like that portfolio thing they did in schools - does anyone ever look at them?

mumeeee Tue 04-Nov-14 10:27:21

Senua. DD2 and DD3 have portfolios from school but no one has ever asked to look at them, DD3!is at at university but DD2 is nearly 25 she graduated a couple of years ago, She said not one employer has ever asked to look at her portfolio

PiratePanda Tue 04-Nov-14 18:18:47

It's been around for more than five years now - it's not an invention of Tristram Hunt. I think it's rubbish too, but it's not his fault!

skylark2 Wed 05-Nov-14 10:35:26

Reading has something similar. It seems reasonably harmless - not sure why all the hate?

DD isn't worrying about it as she spends every free hour sports training. Nobody can do everything, and an awful lot of it does seem to be "so how are you going to make yourself look attractive to an employer if all you do in your non timetable time is socialise." I think that's a reasonable question to ask of a uni student who does no music, no sport, no volunteering...I think it's pretty irrelevant to anyone who already does plenty of them.

Yes, it's what a CV is for, but by the time you're putting together the CV it's too late. The point of this sort of structure is that throughout uni you're encouraged to do the sorts of things that you'll put on your CV later.

LightastheBreeze Wed 05-Nov-14 10:40:37

What about students who have to do part time jobs to help fund their university. This is another thing which favours the well off, like unpaid internships do

TooMuchRain Wed 05-Nov-14 12:01:34

They have been around a while, most students try to ignore as it's a bit irrelevant but Hunt would love it because it reduces the whole university experience to a crappy CV. After all, for them university is about 'making yourself attractive' (horrible metaphor) to employers, not actually learning stuff that you will find enjoyable/useful/enlightening/amazing...

skylark2 Sun 09-Nov-14 14:59:43

"What about students who have to do part time jobs to help fund their university."

That's going to be useful to them in exactly the same way that having done volunteering etc is to someone who doesn't have a part time job.

The point isn't to have a list of impressive names to drop, it's to have a bit of evidence that you've done more at uni than treat it as an extension of school where adults are the ones who organise everything you do. There's any number of ways you can do that including holding down a job.

mummytime Sun 09-Nov-14 15:20:32

This has always been part of the Uni experience, and part time jobs can give you even more of the soft skills.

Admittedly the unpaid internships have also always been part of the experience too, people from working class backgrounds didn't get jobs with Sotherby's because you had to work for them for free for 6 months to a year first.

My DCs state school does something similar. Its just a way of collating all the "other" things you do. Some employers might be interested, others will not.

titchy Sun 09-Nov-14 16:13:18

Greg Clark's the universities minister anyway not Tristram Hunt.

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