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Are there any full time jobs to teach english at gcse and alevel in fe colleges?

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Veniceredmask01 Tue 04-Dec-12 08:29:25

Is it possible to teach GCSE and Alevel English full time in post compulsory education?
Hi hope some one can enlighten me, I am on a PGCE in post compulsory education. I only wish to teach GCSE and Alevel English. I do not wish to teach Literacy functional skills. Would it be possible to teach this full time. Or would it just be part time hours? Also is there a salary or are you paid by the hour? My university have never given me a clear answer. They keep saying to teach functional skills, I tried this and it was hell I was called the c word and my mentor thought this was acceptable. As you might understand I would prefer to teach learned who want to learn. Is this realistic?

Hope you can help.

LIZS Tue 04-Dec-12 20:31:47

I think increasingly funding is going to be targetted towards basic skills such as Literacy and GCSE. I doubt you would be able to exclude these altogether from a ft college based job but may be able to focus on those areas you prefer and maybe leisure courses for adults if employed on a sessional basis. Less reliable work though.

sashh Wed 05-Dec-12 08:32:29

I doubt it. F/T jobs in FE are like hen's teeth, for any subject.

Veniceredmask01 Thu 06-Dec-12 09:44:21

Thank you for the advice, seems a bit ridiculas paying £9000 for a course that the jobs are few and far between, it dosnt pay to try and better yourself that's for sure.

TheCollieDog Thu 06-Dec-12 10:57:45

Well, think about it this way -- in any job, you often don't get the chance to pick and choose the exact areas you'll work in until you've got a bit more experience. I think you need to sit down and rationally map a couple of potential career paths, remembering that often just by saying "Yes" to opportunities, you will go in directions you maybe hadn't thought of, but that turn out to be very satisfying.

From my experience of advising students & new graduates, I often see that they get to where they need to be, but maybe not by the route they expected. You may have to be rather more open to opportunities than you appear to be. You want to take on work that is actually highly sought after & needs quite a bit of experience to do well (and, dare I say, rather better written expression than you have demonstrated on a message board!) It's very rare in education at any level that someone newly qualified with little experience, will walk into a high-level job. Working your way up through teaching literacy skills will give you invaluable experience and demonstrate to others your talent and determination.

And paying for a course gives you the opportunity to study for a qualification, but it never guarantees you that qualification, nor a job. I think you need to think a bit more laterally, and open yourself up to gaining experience which will eventually get you where you want to go.

Veniceredmask01 Thu 06-Dec-12 11:21:59

I think education is in a poor state. I am an experienced manager from the private sector and going in to education has been a massive eye opener. The level of unprofessionalism is astounding. Poor behaviour and incompetence and that's just from the university. I wouldn't mind but I am paying £9000!!!! To be told its unlikely I will find a full time job is appalling. Part time does not cut it. If you was offered a job in the private sector and was told, you must first pay £9000 and 'oh your not garunteed to work full time', you'd be on to the police/trading standards in a flash. I think university's will struggle in the future because there is zero value for money. Also look out for learners taking university's to court to claim there fee's back.

cricketballs Thu 06-Dec-12 14:35:02

Didn't you do research about the job situation before you started your course?

In terms of picking and choosing what you teach - that is never going to happen. We all are qualified as teachers and therefore you are allocated where a teacher is needed. I teach a second subject as there are very little full time jobs in the country teaching just my main subject so I have to put up with it. I have colleagues that also have their timetable filled with subjects that they really don't want to do, but their timetable has to be filled up and there are not enough classes in their main subject.

Bonsoir Thu 06-Dec-12 14:38:34

"I think education is in a poor state. I am an experienced manager from the private sector and going in to education has been a massive eye opener."

I agree, and it is like this in most of Western Europe.

goralka Thu 06-Dec-12 14:38:41

most of this work is done through an agency, here and is hourly paid.
I do not think there are many, if any, full time contracted jobs in this sector any longer.

Bonsoir Thu 06-Dec-12 14:39:30

However, your spelling, grammar and expression are not sufficiently good for you to teach English. At any level!

Chopchopbusybusy Thu 06-Dec-12 14:42:06

You plan to teach A level English? Really?

goralka Thu 06-Dec-12 14:45:34

perhaps some kind of English language troll?
I know it is only a forum, and people type quickly, but really!!

Themumsnotroastingonanopenfire Thu 06-Dec-12 14:50:03

OK, I am sorry but I can't hold back any more.
You say you want to teach English at GCSE and A-level. I would not give you a job and this is why.
be told its unlikely - this is a contraction and requires an apostrophe.
If you was offered a job in the private sector and was told If take the subjunctive form of the verb which is were
you must first pay £9000 and 'oh your not garunteed to work full time', you're and guaranteed respectively
I think university's the plural of university is universities. You have made this error twice and it further demonstrates your lack of command of the apostrophe.
to claim there fee's back. Another homophone error their and incorrect apostrophe in a plural fees.

And that's just one of your posts. I'm not surprised that you don't want a job teaching literacy skills, as on the basis of your posts you are certainly not qualified to do so, but I am surprised that you think you could teach on a higher level with such an insecure grasp of basic grammar, spelling and punctuation.
However, I do agree that the unversity is ripping you off.

Themumsnotroastingonanopenfire Thu 06-Dec-12 14:51:35


tethersjinglebellend Thu 06-Dec-12 14:52:15

I like an OP with irony.

BreconBeBuggered Thu 06-Dec-12 14:54:19


HullyEastergully Thu 06-Dec-12 14:54:28

Get you're money back, op

goralka Thu 06-Dec-12 14:54:51

subjunctive or not, you was is still terrible!

HullyEastergully Thu 06-Dec-12 14:54:53

You was robbed

goralka Thu 06-Dec-12 14:56:10


Themumsnotroastingonanopenfire Thu 06-Dec-12 14:57:39

Goralka - it's not just terrible it's wrong. Didn't I make myself clear? I thought I had. grin Unlike the OP.

LIZS Thu 06-Dec-12 14:59:33

Surely you would have looked into the availability of work before undertaking the PGCE? Or is it that the placements have put you off. Sessional work is paid hourly on the basis of a contract for a specific course. It may also mean you don't work enough to get entitlement to Sick Pay etc

goralka Thu 06-Dec-12 15:00:28

terribly terribly wrong then....grin crystal clear....

Themumsnotroastingonanopenfire Thu 06-Dec-12 15:03:13

Unfortunately for the OP, there are a lot of English teachers on MN.

Veniceredmask01 Thu 06-Dec-12 15:09:54

Sorry for the typos and errors, however the best way to get any information is to make people angry and start a debate. I have been enlightend. I did try to do some research. I have asked all the tutors on the course and not one of them could or would tell me anything. Thank you for your contributions, even if you were having a little dig. Which also highlights a major problem within schools, university's and fe BULLYING!!!

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