16 yr old wants to be a PE teacher...how?

[coproxamol]

My nephew wants to be a PE teacher. He has just finished his exams at school. Where does he go from here?
Does he stay on at sixth form or apply to college?
His mum is against him doing this and has advised him to get a job in a chip shop[hmmm] as she just wants him to start bringing money in to the house.
I want to encourage him to follow his dream.
What subjects does he need to apply for?

[tethersend]

Some info on BEd including entry requirements here.

Does he want to do A levels?

[madwomanintheattic]

A levels and then teaching degree. BEd or a 4 year BA QTS.
My A levels were Eng, Biology and Sociology.
Has he got maths and eng at grade C or above? (fingers crossed if he's waiting for his results)

[Ponders]

there are vocational PE courses in further ed, which would let him see how much he liked it.

if he did, there are degrees in PE - he could do one of those followed by a PGCE.

[Ponders]

\link{http://www.edexcel.com/quals/firsts/sport/Pages/default.aspx\BTEC}

is there a further ed college where he is?

[scurryfunge]

He will need A levels to get on to a degree course. Any sports related degree and then a PGCE or a straight teaching degree.

He will need a second teaching subject usually and should start gathering experience in sports related disciplines. Any coaching qualifications will assist with applications.

[Ponders]

\link{http://www.whatuni.com/degrees/courses/degree-courses/physical-education-teaching-degree-courses-england/m/england/r/9082/page.html\PE teaching degree courses}

[coproxamol]

Thankyou so much for your replies, I didn't expect so much advice.
Yes there is a local college nearby and I have looked into their courses, but there are so many, 26 in fact. Do not have a clue which one he needs.
As you may have guessed, his mum is no help whatsoever re this, so I'm trying to help him as much as I can.
I have read something about PE teachers not actually having to follow the traditional teacher training course, not sure if this is true.
But if he does need to do a dregree, what does he have to do prior to this?
Will look into all the links you have kindly given me.

[Ponders]

the Winchester college bit from the teaching degree courses link gives UCAS points requirements \link{http://www.whatuni.com/degrees/courses/Degree-details/Primary-Education-Physical-Education-BA-Hons-course-details/52407212/50567/cdetail.html\here}

the range there is 260-300 & if you put your cursor on the ? next to "entry requirements" it breaks that down by A levels/BTEC etc. BBC at A level would probably be enough, or an A grade in the BTEC diploma, or a BTEC Certificate plus a low A Level.

there is a specific requirement for "D in a relevant 6-unit award eg; biology, physical education, sports studies/science, psychology, sociology or health & social care" - I think that means an A level (but not sure)

\link{http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/YoungPeople/index.htm\ Govt careers advisers} page might help (in the good old days he could have gone to Connexions but they have been finished I think )

[Ponders]

oh, look at \link{http://www.perecruitment.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=121&Itemid=197\this} too, it has some useful links

[ellisbell]

why doesn't he ask his PE teacher at school, they ought to know. I don't think you can be a teacher now without a degree but you can do degrees in education.

He could get a part-time job (even in a chip shop in the evenings) and still do A levels, a reasonable compromise?

[coproxamol]

Yes, I agree, he could do a part time job in the evenings or weekends, and he has voiced this with his mum. However she just seems to want him to get a full time job, any job really, just to get him out from under her feet and to bring some money in to the house.
I spoke to his dad about all this and he has told nephew that he is welcome to come and live with him if his mum's going to be awkward.
Surely, though, if he stays on in school, she will still keep all her benefits such as child tax credits, but if he leaves school she will lose all that money?
I just don't understand folk who don't allow their DCs to follow their own career paths.

[Ponders]

I don't either I didn't know people still thought like that

she will continue to get CB while he's in full-time education (up to the Sept after his 18th birthday). whatever tax credits she gets now might continue (but who knows with this shower? )

he'd better move to his dad's then!

[kritur]

Requirements to become a secondary teacher:
GCSEs in English and Maths at grade C
A degree in a suitable subject and a teacher training programme that confers QTS (qualified teacher status) such as a PGCE or GTP
OR An education degree that confers QTS eg, secondary sports education

Additionally to teach PE they generally need to be coach qualified in 2 sports that are taught in mainstream secondary schools eg, football, rugby, cricket, athletics.

To be honest competition for jobs in PE is fierce, we haven't advertised for a PE teacher for 4 years now and when we did we had 125 applicants! The person we employed could offer science as a second subject.

To get on a degree course he will need qualifications at level 3 (equivalent to A-level), this could be traditional A-levels like applied science, human biology, biology, PE, geography etc or the BTEC route (which I would caution against as they are currently being looked at for their equivalence).

[coproxamol]

Blimey, I didn't realise it was so hard to find a PE teaching job atm.
Although things might have changed for the better by the time he finishes studying.

[Ponders]

well yes, they might...I wouldn't bet on it though

if he's really set on it, & gets good GCSEs, he'd clearly be best looking at doing 3 strong academic A Levels (inc PE maybe), followed by a decent degree, & then PGCE. And doing another sports specialism on the side!

wish him luck

[coproxamol]

Thanks Ponders

[ginmakesitallok]

My DP is a lecturer in Sports and Exercise science at Uni and seems to think the majority of his students want to be PE teachers - so he'd need to get some A levels under his belt and then on to Uni. Might be worth speaking with some careers advisers?

[ellisbell]

his immediate need is to decide on either 6th form or local college. Someone needs to be looking with him at what they both offer. He needs to choose A levels that will get him into the sort of course he wants, he can look on the UCAS site www.ucas.com/ and he can talk to other students on the student room www.thestudentroom.co.uk/

Although I don't have a lot of sympathy for his mother teenagers can be very demanding and he may be asking for lots of expensive items she can't afford. He should be trying to get a summer job as well as some part-time work during term time.

[ellisbell]

good info on student room website www.thestudentroom.co.uk/wiki/Physical_Education_Degree

[ellisbell]

please ignore last post, it's not good info, just a stub. However if he joins the site he'll find PE students to talk to.

[coproxamol]

Ta Ellisbell. Will have a look at that site. Might be good to get other student's perspective.

[catepilarr]

havent read the whole thread. but i have a friend in scotland who wants to be a PE teacher and apparently spent lots of time exporing options. she just left school , aged 16, and is going to college for two years and then she can transfer into third year of uni course. she said this a/ gives her more options careerwise b/ she will be done two years earlier then if she did advanced highers and then went to uni. however the course she is joining in college will apparentlyhave lots of students who are older then she is as she has done her advanced exams earlier then soem of the others.