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What makesa y1 child g and t?

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dontshoutatmegandt · 26/01/2010 19:06

Name changed due to expectation of onslaught (wink).
Dd is y1 and stage 10 ort. I have no idea if her school do a g and t thing but would this be g and t?

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dontshoutatmegandt · 26/01/2010 19:29

bump as it's so fast moving at the mo.

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Hulababy · 26/01/2010 19:35

Depends on the rest of the year group and what level the rest are at.

G&T is roughly the top 5-10% of the year group, and Engligh state schools are supposed to kee pa register of these children, and ideally provide additional stuff for them. In reality this may not actually occur.

So, if she is in the top part of her year group then she may well be classed as G&T.

Stage 10 ORT is above avergae for reading in Y1. Howver, it is not outside the norms IME. Does she happily read other books outside of ORT, have good comprehension levels, and happy to read unfamiliar texts in diffrent forms (plays, poetry, non fiction, etc)?

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dontshoutatmegandt · 26/01/2010 19:37

SHe reads a large range of things. Tbh her school don't read a lot of ort at all. I only can gage her level as she happened to bring one home a few days okay and read it fine. Has another one tonight which she can read fine too.
She reads Daisy books, Horrid Henrys etc and has done for some time. I never get to go to her school so can't compare her with anyone.

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Hulababy · 26/01/2010 19:46

Sounds like she is doing very well.

As I said, it really does depend on the school cohort. G&T is the top x% of each cohort. If she is is top or near top of her year group then she may be eligble for their G&T register.

It also depends on how school works thngs and how much they actually do in terms of G&T.

She seems to be definitely above average from what you say, at least in terms of reading. However I wouldn't say that what she is reading is mile ahead and would be within the norms (albeit towards the top) of what I have seen with other Y1 childreen.

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Marne · 26/01/2010 19:57

I'm not sure if dd's school has a G&T register, dd1 is year 1 and reads roald dahl at home (almost a free reader at school), also ahead by 2 years with maths and hand writing but i have not been told about a G&T register.
Do all schools have them? Dd1 has spent the past year working with the year 2's and i am worried that she wont get the work she needs next year as they can not move her up a class with y2 (she's in a mixed class of Y1 and Y2's).

If a child is on the G&T register to they get extra help/work?

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NoahAndTheWhale · 26/01/2010 20:01

My DS is in Year 1 and I would say is at a lower level than your DD, but within his class is at or very near the top of it. I think he does get extension work, or at least work that is sometimes different from other children in his class.

As Hulababy says, there is a percentage of children per class who are considered to be G&T but if they were in a different school might not be. I think it is a way of trying to ensure children are doing work appropriate for them.

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madwomanintheattic · 27/01/2010 16:56

dd2 started yr r and was assessed at ort stage 10. she was put on the g&t register, but tbh, it was just a name on the list. she was always able to access the yr 2 bookshelf, but that was the only difference in reality. she wasn't given any specific extension work other than differentiated reading list. as each child had their ownreading list depending on where they were assessed at, not sure that g&t made any difference...

i wouldn't worry too much about lists tbh - they are virtually meaningless in most cases - but if you think the books she is being given are unsuitable, then it is worth asking if she can have access to other material.

incidentally, you'll find that as she transitions into yr 2, the 'top' groups will have their comprehension etc slightly differentiated as they will be sitting the level 3 SATs paper. so a natural stage when children are given a bit more extension work.

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drivinmecrazy · 27/01/2010 17:08

DD1 is yr4 and up until this year she was given extension work, meaning extra sheets to work on after each book and maths was the same. This year they have been taken out of class for advanced maths and literacy sessions. I used to panic over whether she was being stretched or pushed enough but can now appreciate that it is only now that she really needs or is ready to go further. There are 8 in her year of a similar ability so she has a group to work within.
I now panic that they are assessed at level 4b and can only achieve level 5 at the end of year 6.
Always something to worry about

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madwomanintheattic · 27/01/2010 17:19

ds1 was always moved up a year for maths. (lol at past tense - we have moved to a completely diff system lol, not referring to the dark ages) you are right though, drivin - constant acceleration leaves you with nowhere to go come SATs... schools are always very unwilling to apply for special dispensation to sit the next test paper. they will do in some circs though...

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CantSupinate · 28/01/2010 14:00

DD was reading about that level at this point in Yr1. The school didn't bother to formally tell me she was on G&T list until she hit Yr2... not like I needed to be told . I could ruddy see for myself (from some spells of parenting helper) that she was top of the class (literally). But I remember puzzling... What does it take to get on the G&T list?

See how it goes, OP. You don't need the school to tell you that she's doing well. She might plateau or she might continue to forge ahead. As long as she's happy in her school environment she will continue to achieve her potential, that's the main thing.

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dontshoutatmegandt · 28/01/2010 22:05

Thanks for all the kind messages. She loves school and is now getting books from Y2 to read each day.

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