Urgent!! DD gone completely crazy, like she needs a tranquiliser or something- I don't know what to do

[BiteOfFun]

DD2 (9) is autistic, no speech, learning disabled, still in nappies etc. She can have bad tantrums still, like a toddlers, but they are very melodramatic as she is so much bigger.

I am feeling quite scared of this one- I had to bodily carry her off the school bus with the driver's help, and kind of manhandle her upstairs to her room (safest place for her) with the help of Dd1 as she is far too heavy and strong for me on my own now. Also, she bites and scratches.

I think she may actually be quietening now, but it has taken about twenty-five minutes of her screaming, holding her body rigid and banging her legs hard on the floor to the point where the house is literally shaking.

I'm feeling a bit wobbly myself now- what should I be doing? Should I have called a doctor? No idea what set it off.

She has actually just bust the catch on her door and got out of her room

She is calm again.

My nerves are in shreds

How the hell do I deal with

[LadyOfTheFlowers]

No advice or experience I'm afraid, but if you haven't already and you are able to, make yourself a nice cup of sweet tea and try to relax a bit - whatever triggered it wasn't your fault.

You got her in safe and unharmed, that's all you could have done.

[ShinyAndNew]

That must be really hard for you. I have no advice just support. I hope she calms down soon and someone with advice comes along.

[MayorNaze]

no advice or experience here i'm afraid but much sympathy - NT ds has only just (i hope!) grown out of violent, fighting, house-shaking tantrums and he is nearly as big as me so i know how disturbing it can be

maybe ring dr just for a chat to see if they have any suggestions?

do have cup sweet tea as well

[cocolepew]

Could you phone the school to see if something here had started it?

[TheHerbs]

Bite, how terrifying

I agree about something at school perhaps, will anyone still be there to call?

Fwiw ds1 has had fits of anger/mad stuff that have frightened me, and he is NT.

I hope you and the girls are settled v soon x

[BiteOfFun]

I am a bit too blubby to phone anyone just now- maybe I will try tomorrow though. I have just made myself some sweet tea- I normally drink coffee no sugar, but it sounded strangely appealing when you mentioned it!

[Doodlez]

I think it sounds like you did everything you could do at the time it was happening.

I would discuss with GP tomorrow. I would phone school tonight to try and establish what may have set her off or what kind of day she has had.

Well done BofF. I second the cup of tea idea too!

[silverfrog]

I'm sorry, BOF, that can't have been fun for you

my dd1 is only 5 ( also ASD) but if she really gets going on a meltdown i find it hard to manage.

I would second asking school whether anything could have set heroff. dd1 has reacted in a similar way to new foods, and to anyhting even remotely coloured/flavoured - honestly, the results form haribo have to be seen to be believed (she also reacts the same way to calpol etc)

did the driver say whether she had been like that all journey? or was it more that she didn't want to leave the bus?

there is restraint trining that you could ask to go on (sounds horrible, i know, but at least you would know how to hold her withuot hurting her or you). I'm not sure how you would access it, but I am sure that someone over on SN would know.

is your dd1 ok? it must have been hard for her too.

[cocolepew]

Don't worry about being too bubbly, if something did happen it may make her anxious tomorrow morning.

[cocolepew]

Sorry, I sound like the voice of doom

[BiteOfFun]

I will ask in the morning. She actually did this whole shebang in the middle of the night (about 5am?) as well last night- the banging, screaming, lashing out. It lasted about ten minutes, and she calmed after I changed her nappy. That one just seemed to come out of nowhere.

[cocolepew]

Do you think she could be feeling under the weather?

[silverfrog]

the other times that dd1 has been out of control have been when she was ill, but it wasn't apparent to me - eg ear infection.

she used to go loopy, really uncontrollable, but at the same time would on the surface be ok - eating ok, playing (as much as she is able) ok, etc.

and then finally she would get a raging temp, and I would take her to the docs only to find massive ear infection that had been brewing for a while

[LadyOfTheFlowers]

Bite - The tea does seem to work, think it has something to do with sugar and shock.

If she is ok now you have time to gather yourself before you call.

[BiteOfFun]

Sorry, cocolepew, missed your posts then- the school shuts up shop quite pronto, they never answer the phone by the time dd has arrived home. Can't think why the staff would want to get home so fast...

[BiteOfFun]

I think she might be sickly, yes. So hard when you can't just ask though!

[cocolepew]

I know what you mean BOF, I work in a Special School and we've had so many bugs going around, it's not until the children are obviously unwell that we realise sometimes.

My DD has Aspergers and always cries and plays up a few days before getting ill.

[sfxmum]

BOF I am sure you will have the right experience to deal with this as a mum, although I know it is nerve wrecking and tiring

from my experience, not as a mum, I would check what has happened during the day, she sounds overwhelmed which is easy to happen, can be simple things that just overload the senses

I agree that being poorly can be a factor particularly when it starts feeling strange

sorry not much help especially not knowing your dd
hang in there

[BiteOfFun]

I think the tea is working its magic now...

[BiteOfFun]

[TheMitsubishiWarrioress]

BoF...I am so sorry, that must be awful for you.

I have no advice, I have issues with DS that are scary and he at least has none of the other things that your DD has.

I really do understand the feelings it leaves you with though and may try the sweet tea trick myself.

FWIW, you have my absolute admiration, you are such a buoyant upbeat person most of the time and are always making people laugh. If I had helpful advice I would gladly give it but can just hope you can give yourself a bit of a break and that you have an easier time tonight.

[jetonthedancefloor]

hope all is well now Bof and the gin tea is kicking in