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Pelvic floor!

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inthemaking Fri 17-Oct-08 22:51:58

Mt pelvic floor muscles arent as strong as they are supposed to be and the doctor gave me some exercises to do and refered me to the hospital?

I am wanting to have another baby - do you think it would be ok to ttc?

MakemineaGandT Fri 17-Oct-08 22:54:11

Of course. You can do your excercises whilst pregnant.

My pelvic floor is shot to pieces by the way but I am too lazy to do the excercises....

dontfeellikeit Fri 17-Oct-08 22:54:38

I reckon I had some sort of prolapse after the birth of my first DS who was 9lbs. After the birth of my twins things are totally knackered!!!

inthemaking Fri 17-Oct-08 23:01:57

Well i only really noticed coz i could feel a soft lump inside me n i was asked if i could stop myself from having a wee halfway through - never had tried so next time i went for wee i couldnt! They said do my exercises n when i go to hospital they will give me more advice!

I am wanting another baby but didnt no if it would cause any problems!

suspookywoo Fri 17-Oct-08 23:05:51

If you had major problems, you would seriously know about it. I have complete procidentia, so a weak pelvic floor would be bliss to me. BTW, I was 26 and a healthy weight when this happened to me, so get on with your kegels and shut up- theres a love.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 Sat 18-Oct-08 03:52:29

hmm that is a really harsh response to a perfectly reasonable OP imo, it's not her fault that you have a worse problem than her!

meandmyjoe Sat 18-Oct-08 09:14:31

Oooo that's a bit harsh suspookywoo. OP is asking a very valid question.

For what it's worth I think most women's pelvic floor is shot after having a baby. My ds was a fairly big baby and I try to do the excercises when I remember. DS is 14 months now and I still pee when I sneeze! blush

suspookywoo Sat 18-Oct-08 13:10:12

Ooh it was a bit harsh- sorry! Was on the vino.

expatinscotland Sat 18-Oct-08 13:12:50

i'm thinking of getting one of those pelvic floor toners after this one is born.

coochybottom Sat 18-Oct-08 19:43:10

Depends what type of prolapse you have. Because my womb tilts backwards it doesnt cause too much problem with my bladder but everything is falling out still. Saw consultant who recommended hysterectomy and repair operation if it gets so I cant live with it. Have decided to tolerate it for now. Dont fancy big operation. sad

inthemaking Sat 18-Oct-08 21:51:19

Coochy - my doc said that it could possibly be my womb tilting back - the hospital will tell me more!

Would that cause a problem having another baby?
I don't fancy a big op like that at 22!

coochybottom Sun 19-Oct-08 10:13:05

I did have problems getting pregnant second time around (took 4 years) but was told I had unexplained infertility and did conceive eventually (naturally) with id twins. My 1st son was quite big and I do think I had some prolapse after his birth as I found it difficult using tamponsblush. Since having the twins it has obviously got worse and I can see a lump coming out!blush blush. Sometimes it is worse than others, particularly if I have been on my feet all day(gravity!!). I can remember when I was tttc one doc telling me to try different positions!!! and when I have a smear they find it hard to find my cervix! However, it was not given as a reason for my infertility. I think it may have contributed thou. I wish it had been picked up earlier so that might be in your favour. Even after the twins no one took me seriously until 4 years later when it was well and truly knackered! Sorry for the graphic details. HTH xx

suspookywoo Sun 19-Oct-08 10:13:58

I will answer you sensibly now I am sober. I have been treated for 6 years for mine and it is now a third degree prolapse/ procidentia (coochybottom- nice to meet someone else on here who's is as severe as mine, bloody awful isn't it). I went on to have a second child no problem, although the gynae did suggest that I had a c section which I did. The additional weight and pressure did cause the prolapse to worsen slightly however the Gynae and I have changed the way it is being managed and that seems to be working better. I have now requested to have the repair as I feel this is the right time for me. HTH.

coochybottom Sun 19-Oct-08 10:21:34

Mine has been classed 2nd degree at the mo. Do you think it will gradually get worse? Am hoping to delay any major op if I can. Is there anything I can do to stop it geting worse? For my type (rectocele?) surgery appears to be the only option.

suspookywoo Sun 19-Oct-08 10:27:43

Yours is the other type to mine, mine is cystoceole. I used a ring pessary for the last 6 years, but am now using 2 together as the prolapse was protruding even with the pessary. I researched this myself on the internet and suggested it to my gynae and it has made the world of difference. I also have a cube pessary, which I only tried out briefly as I am waiting for it in 'my size' grin, that worked really well too. There is a lot of info out there if you google. My gynae is wonderful, it is a specialised unit for prolapses in a womens hospital. I am the youngest patient by a good 40 years. Contact me on suwoo@hotmail.co.uk if you want to talk further, it is my specialist subject hmm

coochybottom Sun 19-Oct-08 10:39:07

Great to talk to someone who knows. I felt odd one out when I went to the clinic too. I am 42. How old are you? I will be back on here later. Taking DTs to tennis soon. xx

suspookywoo Sun 19-Oct-08 10:47:31

I am 33 now but 26 when it was diagnosed after DD's birth. I lift/carry in my job too which doesn't help. I can forget about it most days, especially with the 2 pessaries in, but its not great is it- DH doesn't like to think about it grin.

vickyplus3 Sun 19-Oct-08 13:22:27

I have been wondering abouth this for a while. I am sure I did some damage pushing after a long labour and on an epidural. 'something' protudes and it certainly was not there before giving birth. When I went to the doctor for a coil fitting and a smear last year she said everything was fine and my husband says he doesn't notice anything (how can he not?). I don't always do my kegal exercises but do run and exercise core stability. However I can have a weak bladder, especially around my time of the month. When I was running a lot last year I found my pelvic floor could really hurt so that is when I starting doing more core stability on the advice of a friend, it helped with the pain.

Any similar experiences or advice? I don't think we will have any more children, my first two (twins) were deilvered by c-section so didn't have as much of a problem then despite the weight of pregnancy on the muscles!

suspookywoo Sun 19-Oct-08 14:19:06

I can't run, everything inside moves! If something protrudes then that sounds to me like a prolapse. It is hard to diagnose whilst lying down and this is the reason your DH won't feel it- everything goes bak into place when you lie down. You could ask for a referral to a gynaecologist, who may ask you to 'bear down' whilst she stands beneath you as mine did.....and people think you lose all dignity having a baby- sheesh!

coochybottom Sun 19-Oct-08 16:48:08

suspooky Can you explain how the pessaries work and do you think they would be ok for my type of prolapse? The consultant didnt mention them and I thought I might have read that they are not suitable in my situation.btw I found his examination of me really traumatic. He was a lovely man and there was another female doc present but I was quite tearful afterwards. By the time I got back in my car I felt a bit sick.sad Being examined from all angles was not pleasant and when my friends complain about smear tests I think "so whats all the fuss about!".

coochybottom Sun 19-Oct-08 16:51:44

My 1st son was forceps delivery. My twins were a forceps and a ventouse. Not good for anyones pelvic floor eh?

suspookywoo Sun 19-Oct-08 18:24:29

Mine is a uterine prolapse, so it is the uterus which has dropped down into the vagina, which makes pessaries perfect. They are circular and way larger than you would expect (like a bangle) and they stay in the vagina all the time. You are able to have sex and use tampons/mooncups etc as these go through the middle grin. I have found this website which talks about all the pessaries and specifies which type of prolapse they are effective with. The cube which I thought was fab, works with your type too. It may be more of a faff as it has to be removed at night and re-inserted in the morning. HTH

suwoo Sun 19-Oct-08 18:29:03

I am posting with my usual name now, so this is me suspookywoo.

vickyplus3 Sun 19-Oct-08 19:23:56

do you relly think it could be a prolapse ? You are right about lying down being unable to feel it but it is definitely there when standing. It doesn't protrude externally but it is clealry quite low. I didn't mention that my last DS was delivered with ventouse - can that make a difference?

suwoo Sun 19-Oct-08 19:55:51

I didn't have an assisted delivery, but I can see how it might have an effect. From my knowledge (purely based on my own experience and research) it does sound likely. I would ask for a referral back to a specialised unit.

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