Why do I keep waking up at 330 or 4am??

(18 Posts)
Doryhunky Thu 03-Sep-20 22:54:49

This has been going on for months and I am exhausted. I fall asleep relatively easily. But every day I wake up by 4am. I get back to sleep around 530am but have to be up an hour later.
I also ache all over in the mornings and am very down. My mom improves during the day if I keep busy.

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Fleetheart Thu 03-Sep-20 22:55:52

How old are you? Sounds like menopause starting?

Doryhunky Thu 03-Sep-20 23:15:12

I have been on hrt for awhile and usually it sorts this out but it doesn’t seem to have kicked in this time!

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Doryhunky Thu 03-Sep-20 23:15:41

Mom should read mood

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maybelaterdear Thu 03-Sep-20 23:47:45

Early morning waking is a sign of depression.Maybe a course of medication might help.

FOF44 Fri 04-Sep-20 07:06:30

Do you drink evenings? As you sober up it's common to wake apparently, can't recall if its a blood sugar thing or some other reason.

Also read somewhere that we get a cortisol surge at around that time to start getting us ready for the day...not sure what you'd do about that if that were the issue tho.

Northernsoullover Fri 04-Sep-20 07:09:20

I was going to ask if you drank alcohol at all. I can't drink at all any more (am also menopausal). My sleep was too disrupted.


CitizenCandyKane Fri 04-Sep-20 07:10:10

I get this too, tho sometimes even earlier. And I can lie awake for a good 3 or 4 hours. It's utterly exhausting and frustrating. Wish I knew what caused it. Very rare to get a proper night's sleep now.

Branleuse Fri 04-Sep-20 07:14:41

This happens to me if i drink any alcohol

cloudbread Fri 04-Sep-20 07:23:44

This happens to me often.
I never drink alcohol.

It's a real pain.

lljkk Fri 04-Sep-20 07:28:08

Terminal Insomnia. I can get back to sleep after about 90-120 minutes. But it's boring as heck in meantime.

Strawberrycreamsundae Fri 04-Sep-20 07:32:04

I was like this too but worked out it was because my body temperature drops around that time so was cold. I didn’t actually feel cold but putting a heavier duvet has worked!

Teenageromance Fri 04-Sep-20 07:33:44

V typical waking time for the menopause.

PhilCornwall1 Fri 04-Sep-20 07:34:09

I'm usually awake by 3am or 3:30am. Mine has been caused by my Rheumatoid Arthritis, which is pretty bad. I'm usually needing painkillers by that time. Even on mornings when I don't need them, I'm awake and don't get back to sleep.

I go with it now, but it's not ideal. It leads to very long days, but it's very frustrating.

StellaRockafella Fri 04-Sep-20 07:45:47

If you’re on HRT it’s a sign the dose needs to be tweaked. If you’re someone privately, asks for Melachron.

StellaRockafella Fri 04-Sep-20 07:47:32

That should be if you’re seeing someone privately, (Ie. not an NHS doctor), ask for melachron.

Doryhunky Fri 04-Sep-20 19:57:24

Thank you! I hardly drink (and don’t really miss it!) as hrt usually works I will try topping up. It may be because I am cold but I am also getting night flushes so kicking off the duvet!!

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thebloodykneeagain Fri 04-Sep-20 19:57:54

I am like this too, post menopause, no HRT. I had insomnia while going through puberty.
What (mostly) works for me is variations on alphabet games. So ,while in bed with eyes closed and trying to fall asleep again, play a game of A to Z with a topic , eg states of America, countries of the world, fruits , vegetables, towns in England etc. For me , it works more often than not. I will wake up later and can’t remember where I got up to.
Sometimes counting helps, eg in prime numbers.
It sounds counter intuitive, keeping your brain active, but I fall asleep quicker than just lying there.

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