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MMR and bowel disease - would you do it?

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castille · 15/08/2007 22:32

MY DS is due to have his MMR soon and I don't know whether to let him have it or not because I suffer from an inflammatory bowel condition similar to Crohn's disease. DD had just the single measles jab at this age, which DS could have too, but mumps worries me as I know it can be serious in boys. The single mumps jab isn't available at all here (France), not even privately.

Help me decide what to do... please?

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crokky · 15/08/2007 22:34

Holiday in UK, get mumps jab?

pagwatch · 15/08/2007 22:38

No - I'm really sorry but you have to take this decision.
My son was developing normally and regressed into severe autism after his MMR BUT this is a very difficult issue and the only person who can make it is you.
You can ask people to give their experiences but you have to get the best informed opinion you can and make YOUR choice.
The important thing is to remember that we are all just doing our best. As much as I believe that the MMR affected my son I do not blame myself for the decision to give him that jab - I was trying to do the right thing for him. Nor do I blame myself for my decision not to vaccinate his sister - nor would I should she contract measles. We can only getthe best info we can and then make the best decisions we can. I am sure your child will be fine with whatever you decide.
Good luck

fingerwoman · 15/08/2007 22:38

I have to say, I wouldn't do it.
I woiuld wait until ds was older, and then perhaps see if you could do single jab abroad

eleusis · 15/08/2007 22:42

I would do the single jab abroad.

crokky · 15/08/2007 22:48

Depending on where you are in France, you could do this either as a day trip to somewhere in the south of England or have the jab on a Friday and take the weekend in the UK.

We had single jabs and the hospitals we used imported the vaccines from Switzerland, Germany and the USA. So maybe Switzerland/Germany an option for you?

gess · 15/08/2007 22:48

Me? No I wouldn't. You? that's up to you!

I'd REALLY recommend that you read Richard Halvorsen's book - the truth about vaccinations. I got my copy for a fiver on Amazon. He's an NHS GP- he;s not into crystal healing (ultimately for 'normal' children he recommends quite a few of the jabs) or anything and he goes through the whole vaccination issue- with a number of chapters on MMR. Talks about crohns disease as well- it will really help you make your decision.

Mumps btw is rarely serious in boys unless post puberty- & it's rarely serious then. Introudcing mass vaccination against mumps is probably the most baffling decision of all. 1/3 of children who have mumps show no symtoms. The vaccine doesn't work that well anyway- although better in the single jab form than combined with MMR.

CountessDracula · 15/08/2007 22:49

I have crohn's and I took the singles option

CountessDracula · 15/08/2007 22:50

(I was told by a consultant immunologist that if they had Crohn's they wouldn't risk mmr)

JodieG1 · 15/08/2007 22:52

I'm doing single MMR with my dc's and neither ds's have had the dtp's (baby vaccines) becacuse of studies that I've read about them. Dd has the dtp but I was younger and didn't think to look into them then.

gess · 15/08/2007 22:54

CD- that's a big thing in the Richard Halvorsen book- what drs will say off record vs what makes it on record.

Wakefields original work was on Crohn's - he found that atypical exposure to the measles virus (eg during an epidemic) massively increased the risk of Crohns. He felt that MMR was an atypical exposure (and catching mumps and measles in the same year naturally increases the risk of autism and bowel disease) and the rest as they say is history. Hope I;ve got that right. details a little hazy.

gess · 15/08/2007 22:55

Jodie- you'd like the Halvorsen book as well!

MrsScavo · 15/08/2007 22:55

My niece suffers from Crohn's so I have seen how debilitating it is, yet I've had all 3 of my children vaccinated. Could you travel to another country for seperate vaccinations?

If you decide not to vaccinate, do look in to treating your children homeopathically.

pagwatch · 16/08/2007 08:33

Hi
sorry for the very pompous posting earlier - not sure why I wrote like that?
I just get worried about the guilt thing - we mums/parents have to make so many decisions and on something like this where it is so complicated.....
Just read the stuff recommended and make the best decision you can.
Sorry for being a twit!

castille · 16/08/2007 09:03

Thanks all. The more I think about it the more I don't want him to have it because yes, I would feel terribly guilty if he had the jab and went on to develop a condition like mine. I am investigating getting him just the mumps jab in the UK.

Pagwatch - no need to apologise, you're absolutely right in that no one can decide for me. I phrased it badly - I was just after opinions really. So sorry to hear of your experience. Your attitude is very sound

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bambi06 · 16/08/2007 09:15

my ds had it and the next day he started with diarrhoea...and ever since then [he`s 8] he has bowel problems which cant be explained..plus he has a diagnosis of asd too..althouh thankfully mild!!

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