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4-year-old girl with very sore bottom / genitals ...

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imaginaryfriend Mon 13-Nov-06 13:07:29

My poor little dd has been really sore for a good few days now, it's left her in tears most of the weekend.

Her bottom is literally red raw around the anus out to a 50p piece size a guess, then the skin along the outside of her labia is also affected.

I've been cleaning her with cotton wool and cold water and putting Sudocreme on to cool it down but it's having no effect.

Any suggestions here? Or do we need to take a trip to the GP?

LIZS Mon 13-Nov-06 13:13:27

Could it be thrush ? Is she night trained ?

morningpaper Mon 13-Nov-06 13:13:55

trip to GP definitely - they will take a swab

DumbledoresGirl Mon 13-Nov-06 13:21:07

My dd is always getting sore around the labia but Sudocrem makes it better every time. If sudocrem isn't working for you, I would suggest a trip to the GP.

7up Mon 13-Nov-06 13:23:37

my 5yearold neice had a really sore bum and wee wee and it was a urine infection that she had tohave 2 lots of antibiotics for, id take her to the docs and get her checked out, poor little thing

imaginaryfriend Mon 13-Nov-06 13:23:38

She's been without nappies for 18 months at night and she seems good at wiping etc. when I'm not around to supervise.

Sudocrem seems to be doing nothing this time, I agree ddg (hi by the way!) it usually works.

mp if they do a swab what will they be looking for? Thrush? Should I worry about anything else?

DumbledoresGirl Mon 13-Nov-06 13:25:31

IF oh dear, did you used to be someone else?

imaginaryfriend Mon 13-Nov-06 13:25:48

7up, I didn't think of that. I did wonder about thrush as she's just had a powerful dose of antibiotics for a chest infection and that can sometimes lead to thrush can't it?

Ok, GP it is.

In the meantime does anybody have any soothing suggestions to help? I probably won't get a GP appointment til tomorrow afternoon at the earliest (they don't prioritise kids at my practise) so I'd like to help somehow in the meantime.

imaginaryfriend Mon 13-Nov-06 13:26:54

long longlegs ago I was. We met on the emet. threads. I bought a stack of blue school tights off you which dd is wearing this winter.

7up Mon 13-Nov-06 13:27:25

i dont know what my sis put on neices sore bits but i know she was red raw and wouldnt let anyone go anywhere near her. very painful.hope she gets better once shes been tothe docs

mrspink27 Mon 13-Nov-06 13:27:29

My dd1 somtimes gets this if she hasnt wiped properly through the course of the day. We generally put Weleda nappy cream on before bedtime and then in the morning and it clears up within 12-24 hours.

lulumama Mon 13-Nov-06 13:27:50

can you get clotrimazole over the counter..will help if thrush..

imaginaryfriend Mon 13-Nov-06 13:28:20

thanks 7up. She was walking like a penguin yesterday with her bottom clamped shut.

morningpaper Mon 13-Nov-06 13:28:28

you could try canestan if you've got some kicking around - it's probably the most likely thing

They ust do a swab from the labial area (barely touches them) - my dd has had a few infections/thrush - she is very absentminded and seems to fiddle with herself while her hands are covered in jam/rice crispies/compost and I'm sure that's why

mrspink27 Mon 13-Nov-06 13:28:34

Sudocrem makes dd's worse if anything. - forgot to add!

Elibean Mon 13-Nov-06 13:30:17

Poor dd (2.11) had something similar, but not as severe and it sort of came and went. When I posted here, the suggestions were eczema (which I now suspect it was, she gets it elsewhere but mildly), threadworms (I treated all of us and cleaned like a loony just in case, but tbh never saw one in six weeks of checking, she never itched at night, and she still occasionally gets sore/itchy there after two doses of Ovex), allergy to soap, bubbles, loo paper, Kandoo etc, and thrush (tried Canesten on gp's suggestion, and it helped a bit but did'nt get rid of it).

I would go to the GP anyway, it sounds pretty bad, and although our GP could only guess (nothing to see the day I took dd, of course) I felt better for having talked to him about it, and got some suggestions.

Hope she feels better soon!

Clary Mon 13-Nov-06 13:30:56

Could be worms - my children get sore bottoms and with girls it canspread to the genital area.

Threads passim as Private Eye says about this but basically you need to look at her bottom when she is asleep (with a torch) and you will see lots of tiny white threads (yuk) if that’s what it is.

Elibean Mon 13-Nov-06 13:31:22

My bet would be thrush, having read your post re antibiotics now....try Canesten, good luck!

7up Mon 13-Nov-06 13:36:10

just spoke to sis and she said it was actually an allergy,sorry bout that. she got cream from the docs and itcleared up pretty quick

DumbledoresGirl Mon 13-Nov-06 13:43:25

Oh I am sorry IF. I felt I should know you, but I had forgotten your name change!

In answer to your question about what you can do for now, my number one piece of advice would be so get her out of those tights she is wearing! (if she is wearing them!) If she is at home, also get her to take off her pants and just wear a skirt - cool air on the affected area might help and certainly can't harm.

DumbledoresGirl Mon 13-Nov-06 13:45:38

If it is thrush from the ABs (possible - I have had that for that reason before) wouldn't she be itchy rather than sore? I can remember I felt so itchy I could hardly bear the temptation not to scratch continuously...

imaginaryfriend Mon 13-Nov-06 13:47:01

Yuck, really Clary? She doesn't seem itchy at all but maybe I'll get her a worm tablet just in case and I'll venture that torch thing.

Sudocrem has always worked in the past for dd but I've never seen her sore like this apart from when she was teething as a little baby.

Actually I have got some Canesten and I tried that over the weekend too, under the Sudocrem but it hasn't done anything so far. I just used it once a day rather than twice.

I need to see the GP don't I?

DumbledoresGirl Mon 13-Nov-06 13:49:03

Poor dd, but the answer is yes you do need to see the GP.

Small consolation but your dd shouldn't be too embarrassed at the age she is now - well my boys who have had to show their willies to the doctors more times than I can count, aren't.

imaginaryfriend Mon 13-Nov-06 13:50:03

DDG, she whips her tights off as soon as she gets in - she's only in them for a couple of hours at school. But I'll get her to knock around in just her knickers for the afternoon anyway. She doesn't seem to be itchy at all but I'll double-check that with her. I think she's too sore to scratch and she doesn't want to be touched there at all which I would have thought would be quite soothing if it was itchy. I mean the process of putting cream on even eases the need to itch doesn't it?

mummycan Mon 13-Nov-06 13:53:50

Try Drapolene - my dd (6) still sometimes gets sore - I think it's becuase she waits till the last minute to go to the loo so maybe a bit of leakage and wee is very concentrated and she's in such a hurry to get back to what she's doing that if I ma not there (which I am often not) she forgets to wipe herself properly.

The dreapolene works a treat and is very gentle - gave it to a frien of mine who's DS had the most sore bottom imaginable from diarrhea. Worked a treat.

Good luck


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