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Rosacea - alternatives to antibiotics(53 Posts)
Arsing cunting rosacea is trying to ruin my life.
I went to the doc about it last autumn, and he put me on antibiotics, and for a while I looked like a normal person but it also made me very nauseous and I lost a fair bit of weight because it was hard to get food down when I felt so sick.
Have been off the antibiotics for about 2 months and it's come back with a vengeance - I don't just look so hideous I struggle with going out in public, it is also quite itchy and painful.
What other treatments are there? I have another appointment this Fri. Does anyone have any experiences of successful treatments they can share?
Hello to all !
I'm new on here - this is my first post - but just want to say a big thankyou for all the info given here re the rosacea problem - never knew that about the skin mites tho' Eeuuwww!!!!.
After reading this thread a while ago, and after trying countless other preparations, prescription s etc, I bought some sudocreme (yep, it's a babybottom rash creme), and finally, after walking round with facial cheeks that mimic the redness of a baboons bottom for heck knows how many years, I can honestly say that the twice daily application of this cream on my skin is definitely working, and that I'm now more of a mid pink tone, and am not blushing at the drop of a hat anymore!
It does tend to leave a white film on the skin, but at night that's not a problem. Through the day if I'm at home, I've applied it - and hope i don't get any visitors, but I don't know how it would work under make up as I don't use it.
Also, as I read somewhere, I've been using a little fake tan moisturiser to blend my (usually) ghost white complexion with the redness, so that there isn't such an obvious divide between the two.
Hope this is useful.
Just wanted to add that I found dead sea mud mask soap (about £3 from Boots) works well, & yes Clinique redness solutions moisturiser, but not the cleanser.
I know just how you feel OP. I had rosacea for years and I tried everything. Nothing worked until I got the right antibiotic. It made my life such a misery that I wish I hadn't messed around trying various potions & diets before I went for medication. I tried a few different antibiotics before finding one that suited me, then I took it for over 6 months. It worked.
Rosacea can go into remission, I have been completely free of it for 7 years now. Hope your new antibiotics work for you Turnip, I still look in the mirror every day and feel so thankful that it has gone.
very interesting post! My dad had it and told me when I was in my twenties that it is hereditary. I thought I'd bypassed it but now in my thirties it is a real nuisance. I've not gone to the Dr as I don't want anti-bs so assumed there was nothing else they could do.
I'm convinced that an anti-inflammatory diet helps (no wheat, red meat, sugar, processed food or alcohol) but I haven't the time or energy to follow it with DS 2.5yrs. The mite connection is interesting so I might see my GP after all for a derm referral.
I use Clinique redness solutions soothing cleanser, moisturizer, foundation and powder and think they're fab. I was told that oil free products are best for rosacea and certainly find I get less irritation from oil free. They're not cheap though! I almost cried when I left a brand new pot in the gym change room and it got nicked.
My skin is suffering a bad flare up at the mo, started with a small patch of spots & very red nose, the normal symptoms & then had a few big spots, now 2 weeks later I have quite a lot of spots & the original ones are still very big & red. I started using tea tree products on it & not sure if this has made it worse or not.
Marking my place here. I have pinched my daughters prescription for a product called Finacea. It seems to work by unclogging the pores blocked by the mites. You can feel it working. Not brilliant results yet but it feels like its doing the right thing. Ver expensive to buy though.
Ah glad you already know about Cetaphil, it's great isn't it?
I also use Avene products for moisturising and such, they are for very sensitive skin.
Yes it can go into remission -- mine was quite bad when I first got it, about ten years ago? Then it calmed down a lot when I moved to England -- I don't know if it was the cooler weather, the water, or what, but it definitely improved, and after a couple years it pretty much faded. Now it's just like I have very sensitive skin but I don't do any special treatments.
My stepmother also has rosacea and has had long periods of remission, although it can come back.
There's no way to know what will happen but at least have some hope it might go away mostly! That's why I suggest trying to suck it up and avoid all the triggers for a while. If you can calm things down for a while it might not flare up again so badly.
It's really good to hear it often goes into remission, too. I didn't know that; I thought it only ever got worse.
DH is also very keen for me to see a dermatologist. If these drugs don't work, I will.
I use Cetaphil. It's great - when I started it my skin immediately became smoother and less dry and flaky. I think practically everything else I used in the last few years irritated my skin. I used to use things that were far too harsh, before I sussed out I had rosacea not acne.
Glad you are trying something new, hope it works!
I would really encourage you though to see a dermatologist, even if you have to pay to go privately. GPs are generally very bad at diagnosing and treating rosacea. It's possible you don't even have rosacea but some other kind of eczema or acne.
Also you may end up trying a load of different things just by guesswork whereas a dermatologist will give you a proper plan and help you figure out your triggers.
I know it sucks to give up so many things, but what can you do? Try to remember you're not giving them up forever. It's very common for rosacea to go into remission (mine mostly is).
Also I really recommend using Cetaphil cleanser (it's non-soap, super gentle and usually recommended by derms) and only using products for sensitive skin (ideally paraben free).
I saw the doctor yesterday and when I told him about the nausea problems with the last antibiotic, he said there's a new one that might be better, so I'm starting with that.
He also said mine was so bad I should take it all the time, rather than having a few months off as most people do
(<starts to get competitive about rosacea> Tea tree oil? My demodex mites drink tea tree oil for breakfast!)
Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone. Hope everyone else with rosacea manages to find something that helps x
earlybird71 which tea tree products from the Body Shop do you use?
I recently tried the dandruff shampoo suggestion that I read here on MN to disastrous results. My skin is much, much worse as a result. I even gave it a month to settle down, but nothing
Right now I'm having greater success with E-45 cream at night as well as cutting out berries from my diet. I'm lowcarbing so this is a massive pita to give up, but I'm tired of looking like a pimply pizza faced teen.
It's interesting how many people seem to have had positive results with tea tree oil. Unfortunately it made mine worse. I think my skin was just too sensitive to it.
Hello there, I have had papulopustular rosacea since my early 30s, was worst in my 40s and 50s, now it's almost unnoticeable. I got rid of it by using Body Shop tea tree oil products since last summer. I use them after cleansing, let them soak in and then moisturise with their aloe vera or Vitamin E as the tea tree products aren't moisturising enough. Their tea tree oil is cut with a carrier oil so you can apply straight to your skin. My rationale was that tea tree is toxic to skin mites so if I kept battering them with it their numbers would diminish. I had tried it previously but a bit half heartedly but keeping it up finally seemed to work. I had just accepted that I had 'bad skin' and it feels really liberating to just wear moisturiser and a teeny bit of concealer to hide slight redness. I hope you find something that helps.
I am going for the probiotic stuff...it's stronger than those little yogurt things..I will invest and report back when I have it.
I can't say I'll give up coffee because I'll die if I do....I've got exploding, shit ridden mites all over my cheeks.....that's enough hardship if you ask me!
I need to do something - I have given up the booze, and sugary drinks - next step is my tea drinking habit - and I will try to cut down on my carbs - not easy when we are on a budget to start with and I bulk everything out with them!
I do love the bit about the exploding poo. Next time a
little bugger of a child at dcs' school asks why my face is so read I'm going to give them the full explanation, exploding poo and all, not forgetting to mention that EVERYONE has these mites on their face <evil laugh>
Marking my place as I have rosacea and can't take ABs due to having colitis (another autoimmune disease). Funnily enough DS1 also has food allergies and eczema, and DS2 is being investigated for suspected lupus!
Mine is also worse in the cold weather. It helps if I cut back on sugar and alcohol. The only thing I use on my face is Avene Cleanance Gel.
Captain it's their poo that makes the irritation apparently...people like us are allergic to an enzyme in their poo and as they have no anuses, they just explode when they die and then leave their poo in our skin. [blech]
Mrs mushroom, I think my family has been in the same small patch for about 300 years also!!!
hmm, I could lower my carbs a bit.
Would switching to brown rice and brown pasta help? I don't eat a lot of white bread or potatoes.
I've had rosacea and noticed that it is vastly improved by a low-carb diet! I'm sure the little mites (yuk) feed on the sweetness on your skin. I've not used AB for about a year. Not sure about the anti-histamines - i also get hay-fever and don't notice any improvement when taking them
Yes mankyscotslass Anti-hs are available over the counter - tesco do Loratedine (sp) and another one beginning with C for under £1
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