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Suggestions for "money no object" trip to Ireland?

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Issymum Thu 21-Jul-05 15:54:22

Sadly not mine!

An American colleague of mine and his wife are taking a week long holiday in Ireland in September. They are wealthy, mid-late 40s, very active, cultured people. Any suggestions about what they might see and do and where they might stay and eat?

Azure Thu 21-Jul-05 15:57:04

Definitely a couple of nights at one of the castle hotels, e.g. Ashford or Dromoland.

bran Thu 21-Jul-05 15:59:30

The Ring of Kerry is absolutely gorgeous, there's a fab hotel in Killarney but the name of it escapes me at the moment - let me think about it. The west is very interesting too, The Burren is fascinating.

bran Thu 21-Jul-05 16:02:26

Also this hotel is in a fab location on the ring of Kerry, I get a wave of nostalgia just looking at the picture as we used to holiday near there.

bran Thu 21-Jul-05 16:06:11

The hotel I was thinking of is in Kenmare, not Killarney, here it is.

bran Thu 21-Jul-05 16:08:04

Actually, that Blue Book website has loads of places that I would love to stay. Ballymaloe House had the most wonderful food, grown on it's own farm, and a famous cookery school.

lapsedrunner Thu 21-Jul-05 17:42:56

I'd go to Ballymaloe if I had the chance!

Mosschops30 Thu 21-Jul-05 17:48:07

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MrsGordonRamsay Thu 21-Jul-05 17:59:19

I would not go to Ballymaloe on principal

Tim Allen was tried for accessing child pornography, he never even had the grace to look repentful and all she said, which I thought was very trite was hate the sin, love the sinner.

Excerpt from an Irish newspaper.

The punishment must fit the crime

CHILD pornography has been very much in the news of late and the matter was brought to a head when Tim Allen of Ballymaloe pleaded guilty to using child porn.

The high-profile Ballymaloe brand ensured that the Allen case got massive publicity. In the end it was the sentence he received for his crime he pleaded guilty to possessing 92 images of child pornography that eclipsed everything:

No crime, not even murder, is vilified more than paedophilia. The innocent child cannot be abused in any way and rightly so.

The person who pays for pictures of children being abused is encouraging child rapists just the same as the person who buys stolen property will encourage thieves.

Judge Michael Patwell sentenced 52-years-old Tim Allen, the celebrity chef at Ballymaloe, to 240 hours of community service and ordered him to pay €40,000 to a children's charity in Calcutta. There was no jail sentence and therein lies the crux.

It seems that he had gone to prison the public would be more satisfied and certainly more forgiving.

In the end, the whole sordid affair boils down to a public relations disaster. Too much slick PR brought an outraged public to the boil.

Terry Prone, writing in the Evening Herald, stated: "If Tim Allen had gone to prison it would have solved a lot of problems for him, his family and his business.

"People would have seen imprisonment as a real punishment for a man of his wealth and stature. The fair-mindedness of the Irish public would have kicked in".

In the same paper Peter Har-wick wrote "too much slick PR brought an outraged public to the boil if the Irish love anything it is to watch somebody get down on their knees and make an act of contrition".

The Irish Times in the opening sentence to its leader "Crime and Punishment" was spot on: "It is not surprising that the non-custodial sentence handed down to Tim Allen for the possession of child pornography has been greeted by a storm of outrage".

Yes it is only right - we must pay for our wrongdoings in a meaningful way.

Mosschops30 Thu 21-Jul-05 18:01:20

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MrsGordonRamsay Thu 21-Jul-05 18:45:07


Would hate to think of anyone giving them money.

MrsGordonRamsay Thu 21-Jul-05 19:20:40


Eaney Thu 21-Jul-05 20:03:05

Westport in County Mayo is very beautiful. Not as well known as Kerry and probably more delightful for it. Amazing sights.

The best hotel I can think of close to it is Breafy House which is situated in Castlebar a few miles away.

If they are very wealthy there is Ashford Castle which is also in County Mayo.

skerriesmum Thu 21-Jul-05 20:07:05

I think it is very unfair to boycott Ballymaloe because of the guy's sex offenses nearly three years ago; the business is completely run by his mum and his wife and it's nothing to do with them. They had to stick by him didn't they? What choice did they have? He's paid his dues, leave them alone.

sorrel Thu 21-Jul-05 20:09:28

his is on my list when i win the lotto. had a drink ther last year and it is FABULOUS
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sorrel Thu 21-Jul-05 20:10:19

sorry i t went awry:
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MrsGordonRamsay Thu 21-Jul-05 20:10:31

Sorry SkerriesMum, he paid very little dues, if he had been living on a council estate somewhere he would have been given a custodial.

But this being Holy Catholic Ireland, and bear in mind he was probably a member of any number of dodgy "groups" he walked away free.

BTW I am Irish.


sorrel Thu 21-Jul-05 20:11:53

this better work

skerriesmum Thu 21-Jul-05 20:28:56

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's all ancient history now. It's not like he actually molested anyone. And what has it to do with being Catholic? Nothing. Poor Darina and Myrtle, they've been through hell. We'll agree to disagree and leave it at that.

skerriesmum Thu 21-Jul-05 20:29:31

And if I think of other nice places to go in Ireland I'll post later, I have to go out...

BearintheBigBlueHouse Thu 21-Jul-05 20:32:14

Stayed in Ballymaloe on honeymoon ten years ago. Food exquisite but no locks on room doors which I thought weird.

Anyway, also stayed in one of the Captain Suites here and loved it so much went back for our fifth anniversary. Enya was having her lunch there as we were leaving - if it's good enough for the richest woman in Ireland, it's good enough for me. It's near Dublin.

Also why not stay at Bono's place in Dublin, the Clarence isn't it - I've had a beer there, but not stayed, it looked cool though.

My parents stayed at Adare Manor which is very swish (like Ashford or Dromoland) - they loved it, but all the changing for dinner lark would do my head in.

Kerry is gorgeous in September (all blue skies and red fuschias) and not as busy as in the summer - in Dingle, Doyles Town House is the place to stay - we made the mistake of not doing so, although the hotel we stayed in was were Tom and Nicole stayed when filming Far and Away - we slept in their bed - wonder if they got any hot water, I know we didn't.


Eaney Thu 21-Jul-05 23:15:28

A 4 star hotel in Westport website here -

Issymum Mon 25-Jul-05 14:24:33

Thank you for your fantastic suggestions. I will pass them on to my colleague who will be impressed by how well-travelled my friends are!

Any more top tips? These look so good I'm quite tempted to go to Ireland myself.....

PS I loved the classic Mnet diversion on the subject of child pornography, custodial sentences and celebrity.

Pam70 Mon 25-Jul-05 19:19:20

Here's a website with accommodation - Hidden Ireland

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